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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Corporate Greed continues to destroy American Tradition. Last year, I refused to spend a penny at any store that opened on Thanksgiving through the entire holiday season. I will do the same again this year....no WalMart, Kmart, Target, Macy's, Best Buy....etc. Its getting harder to do my Christmas shopping but I believe strongly that corporate greed should not destroy the values of this country.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    In solidarity! [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Know what you applaud..... Take note of a few facts.

    Excerpted:

    UFCW-Walmart-Protest

    On Friday, the United Food and Commercial Workers union will be engaging is street theater trying to embarrass Walmart. Their schtick is that Walmart is not paying a “living wage.”

    ................................. The federal minimum wages is $7.25 and the average full time hourly wage in Walmart is $12.94. If this number was not accurate, Walmart would have been sued by now. The UCFW and its hirelings claim that wage is under $9 but the arrive at that number by blending full-time and part-time workers together. ..........................

    So what is life like in a UCFW organized store? Like Kroger, for instance:

    Even senior workers do not earn $15 an hour. Consider meat or bakery clerks at Kroger’s union shop in Dayton, Ohio. They earn a maximum rate of $14.25, even after over half a decade on the job. Those working in the salad bar, drug counter, or floral shop can earn a maximum of $10.95 after gaining years of experience. This amount is 27 percent below the $15.00 an hour “living wage” that the UFCW claims Walmart employees should be paid. UFCW-negotiated hourly rates for cashiers, grocery baggers, or in-store food demonstrators start at $7.70 and are capped at $8.25-45 percent below the $15.00 advocated by the UFCW. These wages are no secret.

    But wait, there’s more.

    The two highest paid union officials in Ohio are UCFW bosses:

    Topping the statewide list were the bosses of United Food & Commercial Workers Local 75 in Dayton. UFCW 75 paid secretary treasurer Steve Culter $355,400, and president Lennie Wyatt $328,116.

    UFCW’s motto is “A voice for working America.”

    The top four UFCW bosses in Ohio make over $1 million in salary and heaven knows how much extra on the side.

    But they try to help the working guy, right?

    Managers at the Giant Eagle grocery in Edinboro, Pa., wanted to reward hard work. So they boosted the wages of two dozen high-performing employees above their union rates. But United Food and Commercial Workers Local 23 was not pleased. The union argued the pay increases violated their contract, took Giant Eagle to court and forced it to rescind the raises.

    ................. UCFW workers often make less than Walmart. Their hard earned money is taken in dues to pay outrageous salaries .................. and when an employer tries to reward employees they protest.

    .................................................. .........................
    ............. most of the protesters are not Walmart employees and the Walmart employees who are participating are being paid by the UCFW to do so.


    The farce of the UCFW's anti-Walmart Black Friday protest | RedState

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    no, they were not assigned to work there. walmart has every right to fire employees who don't show up for scheduled shifts. you sarcastically asked "how DARE walmart give the customers what they want?" as though the workers are wrong for simply expressing the desire to stay home on thanksgiving. my post was was intended to show you why that attitude is absurd by asking a similar sarcastic question about the workers.
    If they were hired on with the agreement to work and that was subject to holiday hours, they have nothing to complain about. They AGREED to work those hours did they not?

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Corporate Greed continues to destroy American Tradition. Last year, I refused to spend a penny at any store that opened on Thanksgiving through the entire holiday season. I will do the same again this year....no WalMart, Kmart, Target, Macy's, Best Buy....etc. Its getting harder to do my Christmas shopping but I believe strongly that corporate greed should not destroy the values of this country.
    I do the same thing as well, but you blame corporate greed. I blame consumer want.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by bg85 View Post
    do the workers not have the right to say they want to stay at home as well? how DARE they decide they want to stay at home with their families?
    Then they shouldn't be working in retail. Or hospitality. Or as medical personnel. Or in the airline industry. Or as cab drivers. Or with the telephone companies. Or with the DPWs.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I do the same thing as well, but you blame corporate greed. I blame consumer want.
    If nobody showed up to shop, they wouldn't be open.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I ask because I truly do not know... If he doesn't show up for his shifts.. Can he be fired? It makes sense that he should/could be fired, but who knows anymore.
    Since we are talking about non unionized employees it comes down to the State in question. Without a contract, in right to work States the worker can be fired even if the employee serves notice of intention to strike. In other States it comes down to the employment legislation protecting the worker. In either case, we also have to include the motivations of the employer in dealing with non organized striking labor. I suspect Walmart will gloss over this just as they have in prior years but it does bring notice to the issue of 5th income quintile, low wage rate, workers and the minimum wage debate.
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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If nobody showed up to shop, they wouldn't be open.
    Exactly. That is why I blame the consumers for stores staying open and not corporate greed.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Corporate Greed continues to destroy American Tradition. Last year, I refused to spend a penny at any store that opened on Thanksgiving through the entire holiday season. I will do the same again this year....no WalMart, Kmart, Target, Macy's, Best Buy....etc. Its getting harder to do my Christmas shopping but I believe strongly that corporate greed should not destroy the values of this country.

    Corporate greed ??? Really ???

    They are businesses who respond to customer requests/dictates. If people did not desire to shop on Thanksgiving the stores would not open... due to no profit...

    Blame the consumer not the one attempting to satiate consumer wants.

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    Re: Walmart Workers Launch Black Friday Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    Know what you applaud..... Take note of a few facts.

    Excerpted:

    UFCW-Walmart-Protest

    On Friday, the United Food and Commercial Workers union will be engaging is street theater trying to embarrass Walmart. Their schtick is that Walmart is not paying a “living wage.”

    ................................. The federal minimum wages is $7.25 and the average full time hourly wage in Walmart is $12.94. If this number was not accurate, Walmart would have been sued by now. The UCFW and its hirelings claim that wage is under $9 but the arrive at that number by blending full-time and part-time workers together. ..........................

    So what is life like in a UCFW organized store? Like Kroger, for instance:

    Even senior workers do not earn $15 an hour. Consider meat or bakery clerks at Kroger’s union shop in Dayton, Ohio. They earn a maximum rate of $14.25, even after over half a decade on the job. Those working in the salad bar, drug counter, or floral shop can earn a maximum of $10.95 after gaining years of experience. This amount is 27 percent below the $15.00 an hour “living wage” that the UFCW claims Walmart employees should be paid. UFCW-negotiated hourly rates for cashiers, grocery baggers, or in-store food demonstrators start at $7.70 and are capped at $8.25-45 percent below the $15.00 advocated by the UFCW. These wages are no secret.

    But wait, there’s more.

    The two highest paid union officials in Ohio are UCFW bosses:

    Topping the statewide list were the bosses of United Food & Commercial Workers Local 75 in Dayton. UFCW 75 paid secretary treasurer Steve Culter $355,400, and president Lennie Wyatt $328,116.

    UFCW’s motto is “A voice for working America.”

    The top four UFCW bosses in Ohio make over $1 million in salary and heaven knows how much extra on the side.

    But they try to help the working guy, right?

    Managers at the Giant Eagle grocery in Edinboro, Pa., wanted to reward hard work. So they boosted the wages of two dozen high-performing employees above their union rates. But United Food and Commercial Workers Local 23 was not pleased. The union argued the pay increases violated their contract, took Giant Eagle to court and forced it to rescind the raises.

    ................. UCFW workers often make less than Walmart. Their hard earned money is taken in dues to pay outrageous salaries .................. and when an employer tries to reward employees they protest.

    .................................................. .........................
    ............. most of the protesters are not Walmart employees and the Walmart employees who are participating are being paid by the UCFW to do so.


    The farce of the UCFW's anti-Walmart Black Friday protest | RedState

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    okay let's slow down for just a minute here. please note that i am pro-free market, and whatever wage you earn is probably a "fair" wage. that said, the report you've quote above is misleading. to only look at the wages of full-time workers means you're either ignorant about walmart's business practices or you're trying to pull one over on everybody.

    i'll start with a few questions: do you happen to know what percentage of walmart workers are full-time, and what percentage are part-time? how many hours per week does the average part-time worker get to work?

    are the full-time employees mostly supervisory and management employees, or do they also encompass a significant portion of line-level employees who make up the majority of the company's workers?

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