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    Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Sen. Rand Paul told Politico*that he didn't have specific thoughts on the grand jury's decision not to indict Darren Wilson for the killing of Michael Brown, but renewed his calls to demilitarize the police and reform the criminal justice system: The Kentucky Republican did say the situation reflects an “undercurrent of unease out there related to poverty, related to drugs.” He added, “I think part of the answer is trying to reform our criminal justice system.” Paul specifically mentioned the issue of so-called "petty" fines for traffic violations. Petty fines are a $2 million revenue source for the city of Ferguson. But, as Paul notes, paying them is hardly inconsequential for the city's poor residents. Reason's Brian Doherty and the Cato Institute's Walter Olson have*examined how petty fines feed into the resentment of law enforcement felt by Ferguson's poor and minority citizens: If indeed more people's usual interactions with police had anything to do with "protecting and serving" and less with violently messing up your life for reasons that can seem petty and pointless, from people whose version of respect is "do everything I say the way I'm comfortable with or you might die,"*the atmosphere surrounding what happened in Ferguson would likely be less toxic. On the police militarization front, Paul plans to introduce legislation tackling that issue next year. He told Time that he will spend the coming weeks going over the details with other lawmakers: Some libertarian-minded Republicans have also joined the call to demilitarize the police, including Kentucky Republican Sen. Rand Paul, who wrote in a*TIME*op-ed less than a week after the Brown shooting that “there should be a difference between a police response and a military response.” On Tuesday, Paul’s office confirmed that he will introduce his own bill addressing police militarization next year. He’s working with retiring Oklahoma Republican Sen. Tom Coburn on the legislation and will talk to other senators “over the coming months” to garner support, according to an aide.

    Update: Paul has just published his own op-ed in Time*titled, "The Politicians Are to Blame in Ferguson". He writes: In the search for culpability for the tragedy in Ferguson, I mostly blame politicians. Michael Brown’s death and the suffocation of Eric Garner in New York for selling untaxed cigarettes indicate something is wrong with criminal justice in America. The War on Drugs has created a culture of violence and put police in a nearly impossible situation. In Ferguson, the precipitating crime was not drugs, but theft. But the War on Drugs has created a tension in some communities that too often results in tragedy. One need only witness the baby in Georgia, who had a concussive grenade explode in her face during a late-night, no-knock drug raid (in which no drugs were found) to understand the feelings of many minorities — the feeling that they are being unfairly targeted. Three out of four people in jail for drugs are people of color. In the African American community, folks rightly ask "why are our sons disproportionately incarcerated, killed, and maimed?"
    Rand Paul Reacts to Ferguson: Reform Criminal Justice System, Petty Fines - Hit & Run : Reason.com

    Can't say I'm a huge fan of Rand Paul, but he's right on the money here.
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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Rand Paul Reacts to Ferguson: Reform Criminal Justice System, Petty Fines - Hit & Run : Reason.com

    Can't say I'm a huge fan of Rand Paul, but he's right on the money here.
    I am not a huge Rand Paul fan either, but he certainly got out front on this. I'm impressed with his comments and with his timing. Everyone else in Washington, including the President, seems to be searching for the right thing to say while one thumb is up their collective butts and the other collective hand is in the air to see which way the wind blows.

    Paul is more right Ferguson and demilitarization of police than any politician I have heard so far. I hope he does sponsor a bill as he suggests he will. I would also hope that it would pass the Senate and the House. Sadly, such a bill will never be voted on unless it became so watered down that no one would recognize it.










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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I am not a huge Rand Paul fan either, but he certainly got out front on this. I'm impressed with his comments and with his timing. Everyone else in Washington, including the President, seems to be searching for the right thing to say while one thumb is up their collective butts and the other collective hand is in the air to see which way the wind blows.

    Paul is more right Ferguson and demilitarization of police than any politician I have heard so far. I hope he does sponsor a bill as he suggests he will. I would also hope that it would pass the Senate and the House. Sadly, such a bill will never be voted on unless it became so watered down that no one would recognize it.
    Exactly. Despite all his short-comings I do have to admit he's pretty damn good when it comes to civil rights issues for the most part. If only more in Congress would follow his lead.
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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Exactly. Despite all his short-comings I do have to admit he's pretty damn good when it comes to civil rights issues for the most part. If only more in Congress would follow his lead.
    Indeed and whether you or I or other Americans agree with him, the established members of the ruling two party system will never agree with him or anyone else for that matter who isn't part of that system. Forward thinking threatens the hell out of the old guard.










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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Another politician blaming other politicians. Go figure...
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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Really? He's bringing the war on drugs into this?? Pushing his daddy's agenda a little too much here. The best thing, Rand could have done, if he truly blames the politicians is to not write the piece. Yet he did anyway. The man is full of hypocrisy!
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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    Really? He's bringing the war on drugs into this?? Pushing his daddy's agenda a little too much here. The best thing, Rand could have done, if he truly blames the politicians is to not write the piece. Yet he did anyway. The man is full of hypocrisy!
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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Exactly. Despite all his short-comings I do have to admit he's pretty damn good when it comes to civil rights issues for the most part. If only more in Congress would follow his lead.
    It is a nice pipedream to contemplate, but they're bought and paid for by lobbyists with deep pockets.

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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    One issue that I find with this is the War on Terror. What do you think Marines and soldiers do when they get back from deploying over and over and find themselves out of the military? They apply to be a law enforcement officer. And they are shoe ins for the jobs. They are combat vets, usually cool under pressure, and are comfortable with being in uniform and having structure. Kicking in doors at 2am is something I did on the regular in Iraq and Afghanistan. Now that we have men moving up into positions that allow them to plan these operations, they do what they know how to do. They kick in doors at 2am. Right or wrong, I believe that contributes to this.
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    Re: Rand Paul on Ferguson: "I blame politicians, criminal justice system."

    Anyone that dismisses Paul's chances in the presidential race is a fool. He is making a concerted effort to appeal to youth and minority voters and I believe he will succeed.

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