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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Name two minority owned business damaged or destroyed.

    I have shown 5 out of 8 businesses (more than half) listed in the article are not minority owned. I understand the businesses listed were not all the businesses damaged but I am only trying to point out that if they are listing stores that were damaged with the headline "minority owned" the least they could have done is provide a list more in line with the title. So really I am not just making claims, I have already posted the information with the ceo's which is actual support showing they are not minority owned. If you want to disprove me go ahead and provide information those listed in the article in the op are minority owned.
    I see you are not paying attention either.

    One item at a time.
    1. You have not shown any such thing. All you did is make a claim.
    That is one issue. Support it.

    2. The other issue is that you have not supported your claim that the article is based on a lie.
    The businesses listed were of just some of businesses damaged. Not all.

    Most of the damaged businesses were on West Florissant Avenue and included:

    It is like you do not understand the words "and included". What do you think those words mean?
    All you have attempted to do is show that some are not minority owned. Which in no way addresses the whole.
    And the headline certainly makes it clear that some are not minority owned if the majority are.

    Bottom line, you still have failed to support your allegation that the report is based on a lie.


    Btw, I do not have to provide the names of any businesses. It is irrelevant to your false assertion.
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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    A grand jury met. They did not give you the result you wanted. Justice was done. But that is not good enough for the usual suspects, is it?

    The police should not have let the rioters loot and burn buildings. Snipers can make sure the right people are stopped. In order to not be stopped one need not burn down buildings.

    But why be lawful? The Lawless One has given the necessary example, hasn't he? He told Sharpton to stay the course in private. Then made a public announcement for everyone to stay calm after the potential rioters were already in the streets.
    It obviously does not look like justice was served. And the result is exactly, what I would have expected. It takes an imbecile to provoke a crowd like that and is totally irresponsible.

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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Are you missing the point?

    I said THE ARTICLE, not the story was false when they included non-owned minority stores in a story about minority owned stores. Do you or do you not understand that? If not- show me where I said the story and not the blog or article itself was a lie. Quote me saying ""the story" and NOT "the article" is wrong.
    Yes, we can understand that most business were minority owned but can you understand it's misleading to post a list of business that are majority not owned by minorities in an article about minority businesses?
    That's exactly what I was going to say.

    I think we're both wasting our time though.
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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Are you missing the point?

    I said THE ARTICLE, not the story was false when they included non-owned minority stores in a story about minority owned stores. Do you or do you not understand that? If not- show me where I said the story and not the blog or article itself was a lie. Quote me saying ""the story" and NOT "the article" is wrong.
    Yes, we can understand that most business were minority owned but can you understand it's misleading to post a list of business that are majority not owned by minorities in an article about minority businesses?
    You are speaking nonsense now.
    You have not shown that article/story was based on a lies as you claimed.
    Nor was the list provided as a list of all the businesses, but as partial list of those on West Florissant Avenue where most of the damaged businesses were.
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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It obviously does not look like justice was served. And the result is exactly, what I would have expected. It takes an imbecile to provoke a crowd like that and is totally irresponsible.
    How does it obviously not look like justice was served?
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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    How does it obviously not look like justice was served?
    We failed to bring charges. Judging by what was written before and the reactions now it seems that there are a very large number of people inside the country and outside that do not see justice to have been served. As that is, however, one of the most important things about justice, we failed. And the riots are the price.

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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Justice is as much about being seen to be done as anything. In knocking it down before bringing charge, it looks like it is rigged. I do not know what happened, but I do know that it does not look like justice.
    I have to differ with your definition. Justice is most certainly NOT 'about being seen to be done'.

    Justice, in its broadest context, includes both the attainment of that which is just and the philosophical discussion of that which is just. The concept of justice is based on numerous fields, and many differing viewpoints and perspectives including the concepts of moral correctness based on ethics, rationality, law, religion, equity and fairness. Often, the general discussion of justice is divided into the realm of social justice as found in philosophy, theology and religion, and, procedural justice as found in the study and application of the law.

    The concept of justice differs in every culture.
    Justice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So, in the 'procedural justice as found in the study and application of the law', the proper procedures were followed and the judgement of the peers on the grand jury panel rendered a judgement that there was insufficient grounds on which to charge the officer criminally.

    Since 'The concept of justice differs in every culture', I'd say that your cultural perspective isn't in line with those of the Ferguson population. Fine.

    According to your definition, it would seem that your version of 'Justice' is more about show trials, and their excessive expense, ones that have nothing to do with the reality of the situation in question.

    I believe that your definition of justice fails to meet the legal requirements.
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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    We failed to bring charges. Judging by what was written before and the reactions now it seems that there are a very large number of people inside the country and outside that do not see justice to have been served. As that is, however, one of the most important things about justice, we failed. And the riots are the price.
    "We" didn't bring charges because the Grand Jury, which saw and heard all the evidence, said there were no charges to bring.

    People outside the country do not see that justice has been served. Interesting. And we started answering to people outside the country on matters that are none of their concern when exactly?
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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Nor was the list provided as a list of all the businesses, but as partial list of those on West Florissant Avenue where most of the damaged businesses were.

    So you think it's good journalism to report an article about damaged minority owned business and then make a partial list of said businesses with the majority being non-minority owned?

    So if there was a article about how alot of white police officers are being shot and killed then made a list of the crimes but most of the ones listed were actually gang members being shot, you woudn't have any issue with it?
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    Re: Most businesses destroyed in ferguson minority owned

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's exactly what I was going to say.

    I think we're both wasting our time though.
    Yes, because you also do not understand how she was wrong.
    She clearly said it was based on lies and it was not.
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