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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    >" When the president goes through three secretaries, he should ask, 'Is it them or is it me ? "<

    Who ever Obama's next nomination for Secretary of Defense will be, it will be an affirmative action nomination.

    I couldn't have said it better than myself.

    >" Look. Right now, the White House should be racing–racing–to fill open appointee slots at the Pentagon. Every single open post should have a name attached to it by now. Instead, the White House….is operating in slow motion. It takes a year to nominate somebody, then it accepts Congressional slow-rolling of the nominee, and then lets folks sorta…fester in nominee limbo. That’s not right for the nominee

    It’s also not good for the Democratic Party. And, frankly, the Nation.

    The Democratic Defense community is starved of voices, and the Democratic Party–for it’s own long-term health–needs a wider set of views than are available from the two somewhat warring (Frienemy-esque?) camps of Democratic Defense Expertise–the Camp Obama Pragmatists and the Hillary Clinton enthusiasts of the Samantha Power “Responsibility To Protect” school or the understated Michele Flournoy “My Mission is the QDR” uh, movement.

    The Democratic Party needs more adherents with solid Defense experience, and you sure as heck don’t build that body of experience by letting open political appointee slots go unfilled– because somebody at the White House–like Valerie Jarett–is pushing the President’s mandate to grow the ranks of female Defense appointees in an unhealthy, unsustainable fashion..."<


    Well with the Republican Senate.....if BO nominates her. Its not going anywhere. So she can play like the second string she is and take up that bench.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well with the Republican Senate.....if BO nominates her. Its not going anywhere. So she can play like the second string she is and take up that bench.
    If she's not approved, that will delay the formation of Obama's Dykes on Bikes Motor Cycle Combat Brigade.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm no fan of Obama's, but that would be utterly foolish. The President, any President, should have whomever he/she wants in any cabinet position failing the nominee has serious criminal and/or personal/psychiatric disqualifiers. Judges - that's a whole other story.
    You may be right, and that's certainly been the custom--but nothing says it has to be that way. A Supreme Court justice, who may serve for life and whose vote weighs in decisions that may affect the lives of tens of millions of people, is vastly more important than a cabinet secretary. So are judges in lower federal courts, for that matter. If it's all right to go all out block the appointment even of an eminently qualified nominee to the Supreme Court, as the Democrats established when they savaged Robert Bork, and repeated by defaming Clarence Thomas, then I don't see why it should just be assumed that a President can appoint anyone he wants to his cabinet.

    In fact it was a dispute over a cabinet official, Secretary of War Stanton, that got President Andrew Johnson impeached and very nearly convicted. Stanton's views on blacks and Reconstruction were at odds with Johnson's, and the President wanted to replace him. But Stanton's powerful abolitionist allies in Congress had reasons for wanting to keep him right where he was--and for getting rid of Johnson, whom they despised. Congress passed the Tenure of Office Act, which required Johnson to get its permission to remove Stanton, and when Johnson defied that law, that violation became the ground for impeaching him.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    If she's not approved, that will delay the formation of Obama's Dykes on Bikes Motor Cycle Combat Brigade.
    Seems Hagel had to put up with all the talking behind his back too.

    Its like BOs Inner circle doesn't care who they talk **** about.....other than the Iranians.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Seems Hagel had to put up with all the talking behind his back too.

    Its like BOs Inner circle doesn't care who they talk **** about.....other than the Iranians.
    I hope Hagel does what the last two Obama's Secretary of Defense did, write a book exposing how incompetent Obama is and how Obama is a national security risk.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I hope Hagel does what the last two Obama's Secretary of Defense did, write a book exposing how incompetent Obama is and how Obama is a national security risk.
    Well I suggest that BO take his whole Team with him out to pasture. As Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett will be forced back to the Original roles in life. Uselessness!

    Which there will be many out to make sure that all of BO's people will be driven out of anything to do with Government.....and especially the Military!

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Im ok with this. He didnt really have much qualifications for the job. Hopefully Obama will appoint someone more like Gates next, but I suspect we'll get another politician or bureaucrat instead.
    If he did not have much qualifications, how the hell did he get the job? Was he a political appointee?

    I heard Hagel is a poor and ineffective manager, having had a number of failures. But is he not being used as the sacrificial lamb? The greater failure has been with the WH who seems to not be interested with what the military and CIA have to say. The WH is making foreign policy and with the same people such as Susan Rice. How many foreign policy failures does O now have? Ukraine, ISIS, Egypt, Iran.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by Glowpun View Post
    If he did not have much qualifications, how the hell did he get the job? Was he a political appointee?

    I heard Hagel is a poor and ineffective manager, having had a number of failures. But is he not being used as the sacrificial lamb? The greater failure has been with the WH who seems to not be interested with what the military and CIA have to say. The WH is making foreign policy and with the same people such as Susan Rice. How many foreign policy failures does O now have? Ukraine, ISIS, Egypt, Iran.
    You for got Libya. What the ****, the entire Middle East and North Africa.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm no fan of Obama's, but that would be utterly foolish. The President, any President, should have whomever he/she wants in any cabinet position failing the nominee has serious criminal and/or personal/psychiatric disqualifiers. Judges - that's a whole other story.
    No, he should have whoever the Senate agrees with. Thats how the system is designed. Congress ultimately runs things, and the President executes the will of congress.

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    Re: Defense Secretary Hagel reported to step down as early as today

    Quote Originally Posted by Glowpun View Post
    If he did not have much qualifications, how the hell did he get the job? Was he a political appointee?

    I heard Hagel is a poor and ineffective manager, having had a number of failures. But is he not being used as the sacrificial lamb? The greater failure has been with the WH who seems to not be interested with what the military and CIA have to say. The WH is making foreign policy and with the same people such as Susan Rice. How many foreign policy failures does O now have? Ukraine, ISIS, Egypt, Iran.
    Hes a Republican. I imagine someone in the White House wanted a token in office to make it look like they werent totally depending on Bill Clintons people to run things.

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