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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I bet that every deportation will challenged by lawyers.
    For a fee, of course .. assuming they can pay.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The Sally Struthers act is the sort of false empathy/sympathy that creates more problems than it solves. You're 22 and entitled to wear your heart on your sleeve and be uneducated about the world. You should however be educating yourself and learning at this point.

    You have displayed a remarkable naiveté even for a 22 year old. Instead of asking why others aren't sympathetic like you are, you should be asking, why does everyone compare me to Sally Struthers?
    If the fact you are trying to drill into my skull is that all illegals should be deported regards of the circumstances, I don't think I can accept such a fact without being purged of all my life expierances.

    You only care about the law and ignore the details.

    My bottom line is this:not all illegals deserve deportation

    Terrorists, bank-robbers, sexual predators, and actual criminals? They are the ones that deserve deportations.

    But they are only a small percentage of the total illegal population.

    Most of them are only guilty of trying to survive by any means necessary.

    For many of them the choice is clear: to go back is unacceptable so that means they will do everything possible to stay where they are.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    How is making undocumented minors face deportation proceedings without legal representation any form of justice?
    Fund it from the coffers of the governments of the countries to which these kids belong.

    Give them the bill, not U.S. always-resident citizen taxpayers.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Well, that would be fair and equal, wouldn't it? The same treatment for the same situation?
    That is the level of mercy I would expect from ISIS.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    You contention is that deporting "Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders" is more important than deporting terrorists and felons?

    Why shouldn't "misdemeanants" be in the #2 spot behind terrorists and felons?

    Should "misdemeanants" be in the #1 spot or the #3 spot?

    Or would you just lump all of the various groups together and call that "prioritizing"?
    If you had a daughter who was abused sexually by one, I would guarantee you that you wouldn't have made this comment of yours. just sayin....

    I remember in the news a couple of years ago where a drunk driver who was an illegal and was in an accident killed the other driver... his third offense. Busted twice before and not deported....ended up killing an innocent.....

    So...I'm not sure you or Barry should be making the priorities in these matters.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I don't understand what you see is wrong with this flexibility.

    What would you prefer? That every illegal be deported no matter what?
    Yes, that is exactly what I would prefer except for a very few hardship cases where the illegals had no choice in the matter and have no 'home' elsewhere to return to. I would like for there to be a guest worker program in place that would allow those productive people with homes and businesses and jobs here and who are paying taxes to return to. But they need to get their affairs in order and leave and then come back through legal channels. The only 'amnesty' that should be involved is maybe a 180-day grace period that would allow them to do that. Those we want as citizens here would most likely be willing to do that. The rest, we will be far better off without.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    What if they have family that are legal American citizens? If a mother is an illegal and is deported, what would happen to her children that are legal us citizens, especially if the kids are underage and cannot care for themselves?
    The kids go with her, just as the kids go with a parent who voluntarily leaves any country to live in another country, the kids go with her.

    The plight of the kids in this case is no difference.

    If the kids don't like it, their beef is with their parent.

    The conditions causing the parent to leave the country, whether voluntary or forced, are caused by the parent.

    The kids have no one to rightly blame but the parent.

    So .. are you all bleed-heart for kids when their parent voluntarily chooses to move to another country?

    It's no different here for the kids whether the parent chooses to go or must go.

    For underage kids, citizenship doesn't matter. Parents trump.

    For most of these kids, those that aren't citizens, it most certainly doesn't matter.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Fund it from the coffers of the governments of the countries to which these kids belong.

    Give them the bill, not U.S. always-resident citizen taxpayers.
    A fair trial should not be a privilege available only to those who can pay for it.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That is the level of mercy I would expect from ISIS.
    Wait.....what??? Somebody was decapitated??????

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Aren't there things that call for clemency or mercy?
    No.

    You're blowing way out of proportion the situation with the kids.

    Dial it down to reality.

    If the parents chose to leave, you'd simply be silent.
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