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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No trial necessary. They aren't "undocumented children", they are illegal aliens subject to deportation. No amount of lawyering or trial should affect that. These are children that are the responsibility of another country.
    And sending them back to a country like el salvidore or Honduras is essentially a death sentence.

    There is no justice in that.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    What if they have family that are legal American citizens? If a mother is an illegal and is deported, what would happen to her children that are legal us citizens, especially if the kids are underage and cannot care for themselves?
    Don't you get tired of asking the same questions expecting the answers to be different? That the definition of something, what is it again?

    Look, if the child is a citizen by birth and the parents are deported, and no relatives who are citizens step forward, they are returned with their parents. They may apply for return to the US and citizenship here when they are 16.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No trial necessary. They aren't "undocumented children", they are illegal aliens subject to deportation. No amount of lawyering or trial should affect that. These are children that are the responsibility of another country.
    Likely - yet which one? That is no small matter to figure out with a right to remain silent.

    Border security is important.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Aren't there things that call for clemency or mercy?
    No. Especially not in an environment where clemency is called for in virtually every case.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    What if they are able to win the trial and get to stay?
    There should be no way for them to win the "trial". You are so full of questions about the immigration system and how it works here, why not educate yourself instead of mindlessly throwing spaghetti against the wall?

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Because in my mind that sounds unreasonably harsh

    To me that is like making the death penalty the only punishment for a crime, even for trivial ones like jay walking.
    Not even a good attempt at throwing spaghetti against the wall. Take a break and educate yourself.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Then don't expect anyone in the world to give you any clemency or mercy in return.
    Okay. Now what?

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    By the very simple fact that they are here illegally. They are their host country's responsibility. In fact you are perverting justice for all of us by not deporting them.
    Humanity is a responsibility that transcends national identity.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And sending them back to a country like el salvidore or Honduras is essentially a death sentence.

    There is no justice in that.
    Actually, yes there is. And your statement is just rank bull****. Locate El Salvador on the map. There are many countries between there and here, with many regions that are garden spots. Tourists visit just to see the beauty.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Humanity is a responsibility that transcends national identity.
    I'd expected such an uneducated response from someone whose arguments thus far display zero knowledge of the issue at discussion. You seem to only have some vague feelings about the issue and that is where your knowledgebase on the subject appears to end.

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