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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What good is deporting bad guys if they simply come right back across our porous boarder. I think the guy that killed those two cops in California had been deported 3 times.
    Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border
    Not to mention being asked by Obama to now accept the return of only the worst of the worst.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    If the Washington Examiner has it right in this news story, President Obama's newly ordered immigration policy will give top priority to deporting illegals who are involved in terrorism. Really? You mean that wasn't a priority before?

    What the new immigration policy won't do is consider illegals who are convicted of drunk driving, sex abuse, drug dealing, and gun offenses as justification for immediate deportation. The offender apparently must be convicted of a lot of these kinds of crimes before he will be considered unworthy to remain in this country.

    So if I'm reading this right, the illegals are no longer required to obey many of our laws in order to remain here. All they have to do is agree to pay their fair share of taxes, which of course most won't have to do as they will be immediately eligible for all manner of public assistance at our expense.

    I think I'll denounce my citizenship, move somewhere else, and come back as an illegal. Seems to be a better deal, yes?

    The Department of Homeland Security has just released new "Policies for the Apprehension, Detention, and Removal of Undocumented Immigrants." Designed to fill in the details after President Obama's announcement that at least four million currently illegal immigrants will be given work permits, Social Security numbers and protection from deportation, the DHS guidelines are instructions for the nation's immigration and border security officers as they administer the president's directive.

    The new priorities are striking. On the tough side, the president wants U.S. immigration authorities to go after terrorists, felons, and new illegal border crossers. On the not-so-tough side, the administration views convicted drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, and gun offenders as second-level enforcement priorities. An illegal immigrant could spend up to a year in prison for a violent crime and still not be a top removal priority for the Obama administration. . . .

    New DHS immigration rules: Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders not top deportation priorities | WashingtonExaminer.com
    A couple points...

    1) I think you are indeed not reading it right. As I take it, while past offenses may be overlooked, there is nothing that says they get a "get out of jail free" card from here on out.

    2) Of all the crimes listed, drunk driving is hardly one that is prone to be habitual. Many people actually do learn their lesson and never get another one.

    I also do NOT approve of the Presidents actions, but sheesh, take a Valium. The sky is not falling, either.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border
    And maybe not. Who cares what Mexico wants. We do what is in our interests not what is in theirs.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    And maybe not. Who cares what Mexico wants. We do what is in our interests not what is in theirs.
    We share a border so ownership is 50-50
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    You contention is that deporting "Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders" is more important than deporting terrorists and felons?
    Now I didn't say that did I.

    Why shouldn't "misdemeanants" be in the #2 spot behind terrorists and felons?

    Should "misdemeanants" be in the #1 spot or the #3 spot?

    Or would you just lump all of the various groups together and call that "prioritizing"?
    If the administration is just now making apprehension of terrorists and felons their number one priority, frankly I think the administration should be deported.

    But there should be no give in the law in any circumstance. It might be okay to overlook a parking or jay walking ticket, but ALL anti-social crimes--those with the potential of harming others, committed by somebody who is here uninvited to begin with, should make that person subject to deportation immediately upon serving whatever sentence is imposed.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Now I didn't say that did I.



    If the administration is just now making apprehension of terrorists and felons their number one priority, frankly I think the administration should be deported.

    But there should be no give in the law in any circumstance. It might be okay to overlook a parking or jay walking ticket, but ALL anti-social crimes--those with the potential of harming others, committed by somebody who is here uninvited to begin with, should make that person subject to deportation immediately upon serving whatever sentence is imposed.

    Prosecutorial discretion.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    We share a border so ownership is 50-50
    So we build a wall and not worry about what they think. Chances are they like our borders open so that their criminals can come up here and cause havoc.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    You contention is that deporting "Drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders" is more important than deporting terrorists and felons?

    Why shouldn't "misdemeanants" be in the #2 spot behind terrorists and felons?

    Should "misdemeanants" be in the #1 spot or the #3 spot?

    Or would you just lump all of the various groups together and call that "prioritizing"?
    They should be part of the same priority and not given any sort of deportation stay.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Maybe because Mexico has some objections to its neighbor building fortified walls on its border
    The wall isn't built on their side of the border. Who gives a rip what Mexico thinks of it?

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