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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    My moral is to never inflict a harsh punishment to someone who did not act because of malice or evil intentions.
    Malice is the behavior of the illegal alien who comes here to knowingly steal a job whose rights to that job does not belong to that illegal alien but belongs to someone else.

    That's thievery.

    You know .. I wonder ..

    .. Do you personally know someone who is an illegal alien in America?

    Are/were your parent(s) illegal aliens?

    Are you somehow personally involved in this?

    I'm wondering if you could answer those questions for me.

    Would you do that for me, please?
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    So now you need education on what morals are as well? And how in the world, with your lack of education on this issue have you determined there is no malice or evil intentions or even that the punishment is harsh or even a punishment? It's not btw, deportation isn't a punishment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Malice is the behavior of the illegal alien who comes here to knowingly steal a job whose rights to that job does not belong to that illegal alien but belongs to someone else.

    That's thievery.

    You know .. I wonder ..

    .. Do you personally know someone who is an illegal alien in America?

    Are/were your parent(s) illegal aliens?

    Are you somehow personally involved in this?

    I'm wondering if you could answer those questions for me.

    Would you do that for me, please?
    I can not bring myself to bring harm to people.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I would use the fact that they are in custody and convicted to prioritize their removal. Why use resources to catch them instead of to deport them?
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    But there should be no give in the law in any circumstance. It might be okay to overlook a parking or jay walking ticket, but ALL anti-social crimes--those with the potential of harming others, committed by somebody who is here uninvited to begin with, should make that person subject to deportation immediately upon serving whatever sentence is imposed.
    Apparently, we'd $285 billion to deport all of the people eligible for deportation.
    Since that money is not in the budget, someone somewhere must make a decision about which cases receive priority treatment.


    If you don't like it, then cough up billions more so that there's not a need for priorities.


    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, probably, and we can also tell, who's making it such, and who's going to end up paying for it.
    The precedence has been set. I expect some sort of lie from the administration when this question is raised. Of course, that'll be after the wheels and actions have already been put into motion.
    Inorite?
    The govt is infallible, so why do we need it to be held accountable for its action through processes like trials using laws and crap like that.
    If you're a govt agent, you should be able to do as you damn well please--laws and rules be damned.
    We don't need to stinking rule of law.
    What are we? Freaking Islamo-commies?
    **** due process.
    **** courts.
    **** the law.

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Why as a tax payer should I be expected to pay the legal fees for an illegal immigrant? Why should I be expected for their legal proceeding's court costs?
    Are the tax payers a money tree that's free to be shook down whenever foolish government spending needs funding?
    Exactly!
    The rule of law ain't worth ****.
    It holds no value for us REAL Americans!
    We say, "**** laws and constitutions! That **** is for French Islamo-commies"

    ...or maybe that's all a really, really bad idea.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    If you had a daughter who was abused sexually by one, I would guarantee you that you wouldn't have made this comment of yours. just sayin....
    If my child had been sexually abused, I would want to have terrorists moved down the priority list?

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    So...I'm not sure you or Barry should be making the priorities in these matters.
    Well, despite your misgivings, Obama is the PotUS, so he actually IS the person who should be making these sorts of decisions.
    just an fyi
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I can not bring myself to bring harm to people.
    Meaningless topical irrelevancy.

    Again ..

    .. Do you personally know someone who is an illegal alien in America?

    Are/were your parent(s) illegal aliens?

    Are you somehow personally involved in this?

    I'm wondering if you could answer those questions for me.

    Would you do that for me, please?
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And what if the "home" of some these illegals is so bad that the entire reason they came here was to save their life?
    How many of the world's millions in that situation should we take in? But we are talking illegals who commit crimes in this thread. Can we focus on that? Sanctuary is a different subject that can be discussed elsewhere.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Yes, that is exactly what I would prefer except for a very few hardship cases where the illegals had no choice in the matter and have no 'home' elsewhere to return to. I would like for there to be a guest worker program in place that would allow those productive people with homes and businesses and jobs here and who are paying taxes to return to. But they need to get their affairs in order and leave and then come back through legal channels. The only 'amnesty' that should be involved is maybe a 180-day grace period that would allow them to do that. Those we want as citizens here would most likely be willing to do that. The rest, we will be far better off without.
    This is what I would prefer too.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    If my child had been sexually abused, I would want to have terrorists moved down the priority list?


    Well, despite your misgivings, Obama is the PotUS, so he actually IS the person who should be making these sorts of decisions.
    just an fyi
    So it can't be both? It has to be either-or? Really?

    Yeah Barry is the pres/emperor....if these are the decisions he makes, he isn't the right person. FYI

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I can not bring myself to bring harm to people.
    Buddhism is the only answer for you then. Give up your possessions and find a temple post haste.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Apparently, we'd $285 billion to deport all of the people eligible for deportation.
    Since that money is not in the budget, someone somewhere must make a decision about which cases receive priority treatment.


    If you don't like it, then cough up billions more so that there's not a need for priorities.


    Inorite?
    The govt is infallible, so why do we need it to be held accountable for its action through processes like trials using laws and crap like that.
    If you're a govt agent, you should be able to do as you damn well please--laws and rules be damned.
    We don't need to stinking rule of law.
    What are we? Freaking Islamo-commies?
    **** due process.
    **** courts.
    **** the law.


    Exactly!
    The rule of law ain't worth ****.
    It holds no value for us REAL Americans!
    We say, "**** laws and constitutions! That **** is for French Islamo-commies"

    ...or maybe that's all a really, really bad idea.
    Can't let everyone who wants in, in.
    Can't afford endless process taking an endless amount of time for each case.
    Those who aren't here legally need to go back to where they came from.
    Those who are here legally should be afforded the legal protects that come with legal status.

    What's needed is a set of simple, easy to follow, set of defined situations with defined responses and obligations.

    What's the legal requirement that each illegal alien has to have an immigration court hearing with an immigration lawyer representation?
    Isn't that the most costly of all possible scenarios?
    Are there no other possible scenarios that take less time and less expense, and still comply with the requirements?

    Isn't it fact that there are thousands or even tens or hundreds of thousands that are illegally entering the country every year? How do we effectively deal with that? As I think it's generally accepted that we aren't right now.
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