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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And what if the "home" of some these illegals is so bad that the entire reason they came here was to save their life?
    They'd arrive here and so state, requesting political asylum.

    Poverty, however, is not a qualification for political asylum.

    The 22-23 million illegal aliens in America today form just a tiny fraction of those in other countries who are in similar economic situations.

    That overwhelming great majority of them chose to stay in their country, to fight for change, etc. or follow the rules and wait their turn in line -- they chose not to come to another country and be criminals.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    A fair trial should not be a privilege available only to those who can pay for it.
    No, nothing to do with being able to pay.

    Has everything to do with the difference between being a US citizen not.

    Far less an obligation for those who wander across the unsecured national border, overstay their visas, whatever.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    ISIS beheads people believing other than they do or want you to, or for political purposes.
    We certainly aren't talking about that. We are not talking about beheading anyone.

    Rather surprised that you've already exhausted your responses.
    I admit, I'm coming at this with a little bit of devil's advocate perspective, but still. Maybe there's something to the simplification idea here.
    I invoke ISIS not for it's beheadings, but for their cruel and unmerciful idea of justice that has no tolerance for leniency.

    Not all of the undocumented illegals crossed the border because they were motivated by malice or a desire to harm Americans, many are motivated simply by the desire to stay alive and or care for their families.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    The new priorities are striking. On the tough side, the president wants U.S. immigration authorities to go after terrorists, felons, and new illegal border crossers.
    Am I missing something here?

    Illegal aliens trespass, forge false or steal identities, obtain employment in violation of federal statutes, violate U.S. customs, commit related frauds, and steal jobs, classrooms, living-space, road-space and other resources from American citizens and legal immigrants.

    Some of their crimes I mentioned are felonies.

    It seems that the President is getting mighty selective as to which felonies are felonies.

    Prosecutorial discretion?

    I don't know.

    It sounds more like dereliction of duty.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    They'd arrive here and so state, requesting political asylum.

    Poverty, however, is not a qualification for political asylum.

    The 22-23 million illegal aliens in America today form just a tiny fraction of those in other countries who are in similar economic situations.

    That overwhelming great majority of them chose to stay in their country, to fight for change, etc. or follow the rules and wait their turn in line -- they chose not to come to another country and be criminals.
    Let's be honest. They are seeking economic asylum.

    They want what we have, and don't want to, or can't, go through the proper immigration process to join our country.

    They are purposefully violating the very country that they want to be part of, which I don't think is a way to endear yourself to your newly sought after homeland.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I invoke ISIS not for it's beheadings, but for their cruel and unmerciful idea of justice that has no tolerance for leniency.

    Not all of the undocumented illegals crossed the border because they were motivated by malice or a desire to harm Americans, many are motivated simply by the desire to stay alive and or care for their families.
    Once again you show your lack of education on the issue. That last is nothing more than a bull**** excuse you're bought into because it somehow makes you feel more evolved. Btw, do you know how much coyotes charge them per head to bring them here?

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I invoke ISIS not for it's beheadings, but for their cruel and unmerciful idea of justice that has no tolerance for leniency.

    Not all of the undocumented illegals crossed the border because they were motivated by malice or a desire to harm Americans, many are motivated simply by the desire to stay alive and or care for their families.
    See #105
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Let's be honest. They are seeking economic asylum.

    They want what we have, and don't want to, or can't, go through the proper immigration process to join our country.

    They are purposefully violating the very country that they want to be part of, which I don't think is a way to endear yourself to your newly sought after homeland.
    If they were truly "seeking" economic asylum, they'd apply for it.

    Then, they'd have to show that they are being specifically singled out to be prevented by their government from earning a living.

    How many illegal aliens have attempted to do that?

    Exactly.

    What you're saying in your last sentence is true, and that's one of the key reasons why the significant majority of Americans since polled today are opposed to Obamnesty.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again you show your lack of education on the issue. That last is nothing more than a bull**** excuse you're bought into because it somehow makes you feel more evolved. Btw, do you know how much coyotes charge them per head to bring them here?
    Exactly -- the coyote charge!

    It ain't cheap!

    For many, it's months, if not a year's salary from where they come.

    How did they save up for this?

    How did they feed their kids on the journey?

    Perhaps the "abject poverty homelessness" meme we keep hearing about illegals ain't necessarily so.

    Then again, maybe they're being bankrolled by those who contract with them to then send a portion of their U.S. earnings back to them.

    Over time, it could be quite the investment!
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again you show your lack of education on the issue. That last is nothing more than a bull**** excuse you're bought into because it somehow makes you feel more evolved. Btw, do you know how much coyotes charge them per head to bring them here?
    Then here is a hint for you: go after the coyotes.

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