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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Yes, that is exactly what I would prefer except for a very few hardship cases where the illegals had no choice in the matter and have no 'home' elsewhere to return to. I would like for there to be a guest worker program in place that would allow those productive people with homes and businesses and jobs here and who are paying taxes to return to. But they need to get their affairs in order and leave and then come back through legal channels. The only 'amnesty' that should be involved is maybe a 180-day grace period that would allow them to do that. Those we want as citizens here would most likely be willing to do that. The rest, we will be far better off without.
    And what if the "home" of some these illegals is so bad that the entire reason they came here was to save their life?
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And sending them back to a country like el salvidore or Honduras is essentially a death sentence.

    There is no justice in that.
    Your first sentence is false, simply hyperbole.

    If any of the children want to claim asylum, they may do so.

    Then they will be placed into asylum, not roaming free in the populace.

    Your second sentence is therefore simply meaningless.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I continue asking because I think the world has gone insane.

    I don't know when you were born or what you experienced in life to make you think the way you do, but at some point you must have had some sense of empathy.

    I am only 22 years old, but I read and watch enough to know what human suffering is

    Call me naive but I care for other people if i see that they are suffering.

    I don't understand what life expierences you must have faced in life to make you so unsympathetic to other people.
    Your beef is with the parents of these kids.

    Our criminal justice system does not allow criminals to hide behind their children as a shield and demand immunity from conviction and sentencing.

    If we did that, there'd be no justice for all.

    The children's beef isn't with the American justice system .. it's with their parents.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That is the level of mercy I would expect from ISIS.
    ISIS beheads people believing other than they do or want you to, or for political purposes.
    We certainly aren't talking about that. We are not talking about beheading anyone.

    Rather surprised that you've already exhausted your responses.
    I admit, I'm coming at this with a little bit of devil's advocate perspective, but still. Maybe there's something to the simplification idea here.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    Wait.....what??? Somebody was decapitated??????
    No. But their idea of justice is devoid of mercy, similar to the view of those advocating for total deportation.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This is where I lose my sympathy. Everybody's got a heart-wrenching story.
    And if we let people be excused from conviction and sentencing because they hide behind the shield of "I have kids -- you can't do this to me!", then everyone with a child could escape justice.

    The beef these children have .. is with their parents, and no one else.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    And what if the "home" of some these illegals is so bad that the entire reason they came here was to save their life?
    That's NEVER the case. No matter which of the South American countries they are from, there is always a region they can move to in that country or another neighboring country where they are not in danger. All closer and easier to get to than the US. That reason goes under bull**** reasons to throw out there for bleeding heart suckers to snap up.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    A fair trial should not be a privilege available only to those who can pay for it.
    Your non sequitur is meaningless.
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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    If the fact you are trying to drill into my skull is that all illegals should be deported regards of the circumstances, I don't think I can accept such a fact without being purged of all my life expierances.

    You only care about the law and ignore the details.

    My bottom line is this:not all illegals deserve deportation

    Terrorists, bank-robbers, sexual predators, and actual criminals? They are the ones that deserve deportations.

    But they are only a small percentage of the total illegal population.

    Most of them are only guilty of trying to survive by any means necessary.

    For many of them the choice is clear: to go back is unacceptable so that means they will do everything possible to stay where they are.
    That's what you seem to be missing. The only thing I'm trying to "drill in your skull" is that you should educate yourself first before you make all these sweeping statements based solely upon your feelings. Your bottom line comes solely from a place of not knowing anything about the subject you're bottom lining.

    Deporting them all regardless of circumstances is my educated opinion. We can discuss that when you have educated yourself. Until them, it's my opinion against your feeling.

    That last for instance is not even close to true.

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    Re: Illegal drunk drivers, sex abusers, drug dealers, gun offenders, no problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    No. But their idea of justice is devoid of mercy, similar to the view of those advocating for total deportation.
    Btw, if you had taken my advice and educated yourself by now you'd know a trial isn't involved. It's a hearing. If you don't know the difference, again, you know my advice.

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