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AS AL SHARPTON rose, SO DID HIS UNPAID TAXES...New York Times

Hatuey said:
Lol, I own 3 houses in 3 different countries. All 3 of them are valued at over $500K. I don't need anyone to pay my way through life, champ.
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Well ain't you the wealthy little liberal, champ. Tax shelter? :lamo

You were the one who argued that the rich should pay their fair share. I agreed. :shrug:
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And they have been...except for assholes like Al Sharpton, who is the subject of this thread.

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Erod said:
Same man who preaches about the wealthy not paying enough taxes.

Yet, MSNBC marches on with him.
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I usually watch his show at night because it makes me laugh. And fall off my chair. I can't wait to see if the good Reverend will talk about himself not paying taxes like he constantly talked (falsely) about Romney not paying taxes.

I think he's perfect for MSNBC.
 
Hatuey said:
Why ignore the rest of my post? Did you realize that the 'it happened a long time ago' was a non-starter? Did you realize you were downplaying sexual assault by sarcastically saying that Bill Cosby was a monster for fondling women? I would back off from that type of argument too. Anyways, I looked up any news on Bill Cosby from 2000 to 2006 and most of the news articles on it are either no longer in existence in their native sites or they're on secondary sources:
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I’m not sure what you are blabbering on about.

This is a non-starter. Statute of limitations makes these PR problems, not legal problems.

His PR problems began after making his infamous pound cake speech (which was dead on accurate)
 
HogWash said:
Naaa, that's what happens when groupies chase stars.
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Bill Cosby hasn't been a relevant star in Hollywood in like 20+ years. Also, there are far more believable targets than an old decrepit man. Either way, your apologetics aren't helping his case. Essentially, you're regurgitating every line thrown out by pass offenders.

What the hell was Cosby doing in her apartment? Did he kick the door in? This latest bunch is just bull****.

Besides this thread is about Sharpton OWING $4.5 million in unpaid, delinquent taxes.
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I thought the thread was about how black people don't go to jail for not paying taxes?
 
ARealConservative said:
I’m not sure what you are blabbering on about.

This is a non-starter. Statute of limitations makes these PR problems, not legal problems.

His PR problems began after making his infamous pound cake speech (which was dead on accurate)
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That would be true if multiple women hadn't come forward before he made the speech. Either way, what relevance does the speech have to being accused of sexual assault? Did Bill Clinton's position on women's rights have anything to do with the accusations lobbed at him after he became president? Not really. Your attempt to downplay sexual assault is noted though. Do you believe rich and powerful men are above question when it comes to sexual assault? Do you believe time is relevant when dealing with it? You don't have to answer those questions. You've already demonstrated you're willing to be an apologist for sexual assault. However, please answer these questions:

If it was proven that Bill Cosby assaulted some of these women, would it make a difference if it was 10-20-30 years ago?
Would it make him less of a predator?

They're simple Yes & No questions.
 
Paschendale said:
It seems like just about every rich person has skeletons like this in their closets. They all cheat in order to get where they are.
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The rich people I know got rich from hard work and being smart. Maybe you know the wrong kind of people.
 
Hatuey said:
That would be true if multiple women hadn't come forward before he made the speech. Either way, what relevance does the speech have to being accused of sexual assault? Did Bill Clinton's position on women's rights have anything to do with the accusations lobbed at him after he became president? Not really. Your attempt to downplay sexual assault is noted though. Do you believe rich and powerful men are above question when it comes to sexual assault? Do you believe time is relevant when dealing with it? You don't have to answer those questions. You've already demonstrated you're willing to be an apologist for sexual assault. However, please answer these questions:

If it was proven that Bill Cosby assaulted some of these women, would it make a difference if it was 10-20-30 years ago?
Would it make him less of a predator?

They're simple Yes & No questions.
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We have a statute of limitations for good reason.

Bill Cosby is in the news right now because someone took major exception with his pound cake speech. That is a fact. That is the event that brought this back into the news. The media, for whatever reason, has decided to dive into these allegations that were long forgotten even though the length of time makes it virtually impossible to get a conviction.

If he hadn't made the pound cake speech, a fellow comedian wouldn't of attacked him, and he wouldn't be in the news today.
 
ARealConservative said:
We have a statute of limitations for good reason.
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That is entirely irrelevant to what I asked. Your avoidance of the questions doesn't change that.

Bill Cosby is in the news right now because someone took major exception with his pound cake speech.
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Someone took major exception with a speech he made a decade ago?

That is a fact.
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Prove it. Show us how the speech directly influenced the claims. I'll wait. Someone made a joke about Bill Cosby being a rapist and well, the fact that he was accused by multiple women over a period of nearly 2 decades doesn't help that.

That is the event that brought this back into the news. The media, for whatever reason, has decided to dive into these allegations that were long forgotten even though the length of time makes it virtually impossible to get a conviction.
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An event that took place 10 years ago is what brought this into the light? :lol:

If he hadn't made the pound cake speech, a fellow comedian wouldn't of attacked him, and he wouldn't be in the news today.
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So you mean, it was entirely unknown that Bill Cosby had been accused of sexual assault before this poundcake thing? Well, that's obviously not true. Here are the questions again:

1. If it was proven that Bill Cosby assaulted some of these women, would it make a difference if it was 10-20-30 years ago?

2. Would it make him less of a predator?

I welcome you to answer them when you stop trying to excuse Cosby's potential sexual predation.
 
tres borrachos said:
The rich people I know got rich from hard work and being smart. Maybe you know the wrong kind of people.
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You kind of have to make a million dollars to even consider avoiding paying taxes on a million dollars. But never mind that detail.
 
ARealConservative said:
That is not irrelevant. If you don’t have the grey matter to see how that answers your question, then that’s on you
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It is irrelevant because it doesn't answer anything. Here, I'll make it simple for you: Does time make a person less of a rapist?


Yes, someone did.

Who is Hannibal Buress, and why did he call Bill Cosby a "rapist"? - CBS News
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You need to read your sources instead of just posting ad-hoc:

"I've been doing the bit on and off for six months. It was unexpected. It wasn't my intention to make it part of a big discussion," Buress told Stern. "It was just something I was doing at that venue right there. So for someone to put it to the media, it's crazy."
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"It's just information that's out there," Buress added. "I said it and I gotta stand on it, but it is an interesting situation."
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Cosby's allegations were already mildly well-known, but footage of the joke went viral, and suddenly, word of the comic's troubled past hit the mainstream.
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So someone took exception to information which was out there, by a comedian who'd been doing the bit for 6 months on allegations which were decades old? You're trying too hard to make a nonsensical argument. Here is the question you avoided:

Does time make a person less of a rapist?

I ask because you keep citing time as a relevant factor in whether this is important or not. If it happened 30 years ago, would it make a difference?
 
Hatuey said:
It is irrelevant because it doesn't answer anything. Here, I'll make it simple for you: Does time make a person less of a rapist?
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yes. time eventually kills a person, death makes a person less of a rapist.

You need to read your sources instead of just posting ad-hoc:
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you need to explain why you think that matters. My link backs my assertion that someone taking exception to his conservative views was how this story redeveloped.

Does time make a person less of a rapist?
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That is semantics. A rapist is a person that rapes another. I tend to ignore stupid questions like that one.

I ask because you keep citing time as a relevant factor in whether this is important or not. If it happened 30 years ago, would it make a difference?
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it makes a difference to me because I support statue of limitations for assault and battery charges.
 
Thrilla said:
he adamantly supports a tax increase on the wealthy, yet won't pay his "fair share"?....imagine that.

it would be funny to see him go to prison , but he has too many friends in the establishment for that to happen
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it reminds me of the wide stance hypocrisy of Larry Craig. Prison is way too extreme so long as he acknowledges and pays it.
 
Hatuey said:
I agree, the rich should be made to pay their fair share like the rest of us. Ain't it great when ideologies agree?
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Whoops, I thought you were a young money millionare? That was your Sig for awhile wasn't it????? Ummm
 
Gringo allstar said:
Whoops, I thought you were a young money millionare? That was your Sig for awhile wasn't it????? Ummm
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You're trying too hard. That's especially obvious when you don't understand mockery. Now run along. People from politically relevant places are talking. :lol:
 
Hatuey said:
You're trying too hard. That's especially obvious when you don't understand mockery. Now run along. People from politically relevant places are talking. :lol:
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Oh got it, you are a rich millionare you're just pretending your not to mock other rich people like yourself.. Yeah that really adds up, somebody likes to talk out of their arse. Lol... Busted!!
 
Hatuey said:
Bill Cosby hasn't been a relevant star in Hollywood in like 20+ years. Also, there are far more believable targets than an old decrepit man. Either way, your apologetics aren't helping his case. Essentially, you're regurgitating every line thrown out by pass offenders.



I thought the thread was about how black people don't go to jail for not paying taxes?
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You thought wrong. It was about the New York Times article concerning the SoBs delinquent income taxes...something for which most white people would go to prison for income tax evasion.
 
apdst said:
I oughta try that. I don't inow if that's legal in Louisiana.
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The ballot had a write-in box for unopposed candidates.
 
HogWash said:
You thought wrong. It was about the New York Times article concerning the SoBs delinquent income taxes...something for which most white people would go to prison for income tax evasion.
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So black people don't go to jail for tax evasion?
 
Gringo allstar said:
Oh got it, you are a rich millionare you're just pretending your not to mock other rich people like yourself.. Yeah that really adds up, somebody likes to talk out of their arse. Lol... Busted!!
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Did you actually read what I was mocking? A libertarian telling people to pay their fair share. You're being silly now Gringo. :lol:
 
HogWash said:
Really? They ALL cheat? Earning what they have through hard work and/or ingenuity makes every damn rich person a crook? What the hell does that make all the freeloading, lazy ass government teat suckers? You know, those bums that live off we taxpayers?
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They are the people who clean your houses.
And make your food. Especially your fast food.
And landscape your yard and neighborhood.
And literally clean up your ****.
And deliver your mail.
And teach your kids.
And many other jobs that you're probably too lazy to do yet society depends on so deeply.

Now what have YOU done to help dismantle the power structures that deny people of color the opportunities that you, as a white person, have been privileged to have even when you were nothing but a fetus?
 
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