"He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
I find the whole polarized debate about immigration to be a bait and switch, no matter which side of the political spectrum is talking about it.
Whether illegal immigrants get a crackdown or more forgiving laws, the multinational corporations that employ them along the southern borders aren't going to receive fines heavy enough to stop them from illegally employing these people. Successive administrations have shown time and time again that they won't go after big businesses who are hiring illegals.
We have bus loads of illegals being transported from their shanty camps to work sites every day in the south. It's not even like these illegals are hard to find. They're sitting right next to Americans who are on welfare and whose foodstamps come with the stipulation that they also work in such camps.
All this fighting is for naught. If you really want to stop illegals then you need to stop the companies who are employing them, which is NOT happening.
You're nuts if you think MOST American's don't want to secure the border, and it isn't all about Mexico and illegals walking through. It has become a national security issue for most of us. As far as punishing employers of illegals; It is the single best way to stop illegal immigration cold, and we wouldn't need to build any expensive fences or hi-tech monitoring.
“When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.” - P. J. O’Rourke
“Socialism is great until you run out of someone elses money” Margaret Thatcher
Regardless of when President Obama announces his plan to give work permits and Social Security numbers to millions of illegal immigrants, House Republicans are now expected to pass a short-term government funding bill early this December that will allow them to defund Obama's work permit giveaway early next year.
The Washington Examiner's David Drucker reports:
This stopgap measure could take two forms, depending on the scope of an executive order. It could fully fund the government at current levels, including the Department of Homeland Security that oversees immigration, and run through February or March. Or it could provide for a short-term continuing resolution for DHS while fully funding the rest of the government through the remainder of fiscal 2015. The latter option is favored by Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., the likely next chairman of the House Budget Committee......snip~
If Republicans do decide to fund the rest of the federal government, while passing a separate funding bill that specifically limits Obama's ability to implement an executive amnesty, even Senate Democrats acknowledge that would be a perfectly legitimate tactic.
“It happens all the time,” retiring Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) told National Review last week. “That’s not uncommon that there’s amendments saying ‘none of the funds in this appropriation bill may be spent for’ — fill in the blank,” Levin said.
Asked specifically whether Republican attempts to defund Obama's amnesty could be called "an effort to shutdown the government," Levin disagreed. “That’s not slash-and-burn. That’s not bringing down the government. That’s a fairly traditional, targeted approach to make a policy point.” .....snip~
The Senate bill will give him his amnesty. Whatever the Republicans come up with most likely won't...at least, not the kind of amnesty he wants. Because of that, he is willing to threaten...and, it now appears, to actually do it...executive action to force the Republicans to rubber-stamp that massive Senate bill.
For Obama, it's all about politics...not about actually dealing with any problems we might have with legal and illegal immigration.
The Republicans, to their credit, seem to be holding firm to their belief that the best way to deal with these issues is to handle them in reasonable, effective, bite-sized legislation.
-I don't trust a man who talks about ethics when he's picking my pocket.- Time Enough For Love - Robert A Heinlein
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How about one that legalizes those here with a Permanent green card, No US Citizenship and No Right to Vote!
The Demos won't like it.....but tell them to man up. Is it about the people or their party's political aspiration? That's how the Repubs should set the argument up with all those That came here legally and followed the Law to gain their status and their Rights.
BREAKING: Amnesty Executive Order Announcement Coming Thursday in Prime Time Address
UPDATE: This could get awkward. JUST IN: Obama has invited senior lawmakers to dinner tonight at the White House to explain his #immigration decision, several aides say.
UPDATE: By the way, the Washington Post editorial board has already advised against this course of action. Oh well.
UPDATE: Republicans will not be attending the White House dinner tonight after all. Confirmed: Obama didn't invite top GOP leaders to attend his #immigration dinner tonight with senior Democrats.....snip~
BREAKING: Amnesty Executive Order Announcement Coming Thursday in Prime Time Address - Daniel Doherty