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    Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    There’s a simple way to stop President Obama from using executive orders to advance his radical agenda, and it’s not wielding “the power of the purse,” as the Republican congressional leadership contends, according to talk-host Michael Savage.
    The issue is on the front-burner as Obama – expressing frustration with the lack of legislative movement on “immigration reform” – has defiantly vowed to issue an executive order that would allow up to 5 million illegal aliens avoid deportation.
    Savage argues Republican have threatened to use the “power of the purse” before, and Obama has moved right ahead. The president issued, for example, an executive order in 2012 that effectively implemented his DREAM Act plan allowing young illegal aliens to remain in the U.S. indefinitely.
    Savage told his listeners the new Republican-majority Congress has a weapon at its disposal, if it only is willing to deploy it.
    He noted that the only instance in which Congress could not nullify an order is if the president is acting according to an exclusive power granted to him by the Constitution.
    “But Obama’s executive order on immigration is not such a case,” he said. “It is not constitutionally based. Congress has the power to repeal a presidential order or terminate the underlying authority on which the action is predicated.”
    Savage cited a Congressional Research Service report from December 2011 outlining the authority Congress possesses to stop an executive order.
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    How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Congress has the power to pass bills but the POTUS has the power to veto those bills; the only way to make bills, that have been vetoed, into laws is to override that veto with a 2/3 supermajority in both the Senate and the House. The republicants lack the necessary votes to override a veto - advantage Obama.
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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
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    How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.
    Congress is fully aware of the constitutional options to defer or recind an Executive Order. That does not mean Congress has the will or the votes to do so.

    In the case of the DACA EO [dreamers], there was no funding needed for the President to order DHS/ICE/Border Patrol to stop deporting young illegal aliens with a temporary permit to stay in the US.

    The cost to implement that order was the cost of forms and an ID. Monies taken out of the over-all funding of those agencies. How was Congress going to not fund the DACA order...stop funding the entire agengy?

    Congress could have written a specific law to counter the DACA order, but was not gonna happen in a divided Congress. That may not even be possible in the next Congress.

    There are constitutional ways the President's Executive orders can be rescinded... They are not very likely of happening.


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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Congress has the power to pass bills but the POTUS has the power to veto those bills; the only way to make bills, that have been vetoed, into laws is to override that veto with a 2/3 supermajority in both the Senate and the House. The republicants lack the necessary votes to override a veto - advantage Obama.
    What about the 'purse'?
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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    I don't think either party in gov is anti amnesty. Dems want voters and a bigger uneducated population to manipulate while reps are afraid to make Hispanics mad and want cheap labor.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
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    How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.
    Please warn when linking to WND. SOme of us do not like giving page views to a source that lies so often, and promotes conspiracy nonsense.
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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    I don't think either party in gov is anti amnesty. Dems want voters and a bigger uneducated population to manipulate while reps are afraid to make Hispanics mad and want cheap labor.
    That assessment of immigration is old, tired, and just plain incorrect.

    It proves two things.
    1] you do not understand the process going from non-citizen, to citizen, to voter. and
    2] the main reasoning the that Republicans do not act on immigration reform is NOT to keep a ready cheap labor force.


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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    [QUOTE=1750Texan;1063997340]That assessment of immigration is old, tired, and just plain incorrect.

    It proves two things.
    1] you do not understand the process going from non-citizen, to citizen, to voter. and
    2] the main reasoning the that Republicans do not act on immigration reform is NOT to keep a ready cheap labor force.[/QUOTE]


    Then what is the reason?

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Please warn when linking to WND. SOme of us do not like giving page views to a source that lies so often, and promotes conspiracy nonsense.
    You mean please warn when linking to any source other than left wing media so you can shut your eyes plug your ears and sing loudly, LA LA LA LA

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What about the 'purse'?
    Does it cost more or less for Obama not to deport illegal aliens? Cutting funds for executive immigration enforcement folks grants more amnesty (lack of deportation), and to more "bad folks", than what Obama has proposed.
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