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Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

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There’s a simple way to stop President Obama from using executive orders to advance his radical agenda, and it’s not wielding “the power of the purse,” as the Republican congressional leadership contends, according to talk-host Michael Savage.
The issue is on the front-burner as Obama – expressing frustration with the lack of legislative movement on “immigration reform” – has defiantly vowed to issue an executive order that would allow up to 5 million illegal aliens avoid deportation.
Savage argues Republican have threatened to use the “power of the purse” before, and Obama has moved right ahead. The president issued, for example, an executive order in 2012 that effectively implemented his DREAM Act plan allowing young illegal aliens to remain in the U.S. indefinitely.
Savage told his listeners the new Republican-majority Congress has a weapon at its disposal, if it only is willing to deploy it.
He noted that the only instance in which Congress could not nullify an order is if the president is acting according to an exclusive power granted to him by the Constitution.
“But Obama’s executive order on immigration is not such a case,” he said. “It is not constitutionally based. Congress has the power to repeal a presidential order or terminate the underlying authority on which the action is predicated.”
Savage cited a Congressional Research Service report from December 2011 outlining the authority Congress possesses to stop an executive order.
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How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.
 
Congress has the power to pass bills but the POTUS has the power to veto those bills; the only way to make bills, that have been vetoed, into laws is to override that veto with a 2/3 supermajority in both the Senate and the House. The republicants lack the necessary votes to override a veto - advantage Obama.
 
Tameamea said:
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How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.
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Congress is fully aware of the constitutional options to defer or recind an Executive Order. That does not mean Congress has the will or the votes to do so.

In the case of the DACA EO [dreamers], there was no funding needed for the President to order DHS/ICE/Border Patrol to stop deporting young illegal aliens with a temporary permit to stay in the US.

The cost to implement that order was the cost of forms and an ID. Monies taken out of the over-all funding of those agencies. How was Congress going to not fund the DACA order...stop funding the entire agengy?

Congress could have written a specific law to counter the DACA order, but was not gonna happen in a divided Congress. That may not even be possible in the next Congress.

There are constitutional ways the President's Executive orders can be rescinded... They are not very likely of happening.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Congress has the power to pass bills but the POTUS has the power to veto those bills; the only way to make bills, that have been vetoed, into laws is to override that veto with a 2/3 supermajority in both the Senate and the House. The republicants lack the necessary votes to override a veto - advantage Obama.
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What about the 'purse'?
 
I don't think either party in gov is anti amnesty. Dems want voters and a bigger uneducated population to manipulate while reps are afraid to make Hispanics mad and want cheap labor.
 
Tameamea said:
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How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.
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Please warn when linking to WND. SOme of us do not like giving page views to a source that lies so often, and promotes conspiracy nonsense.
 
lifeisshort said:
I don't think either party in gov is anti amnesty. Dems want voters and a bigger uneducated population to manipulate while reps are afraid to make Hispanics mad and want cheap labor.
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That assessment of immigration is old, tired, and just plain incorrect.

It proves two things.
1] you do not understand the process going from non-citizen, to citizen, to voter. and
2] the main reasoning the that Republicans do not act on immigration reform is NOT to keep a ready cheap labor force.
 
1750Texan said:
That assessment of immigration is old, tired, and just plain incorrect.

It proves two things.
1] you do not understand the process going from non-citizen, to citizen, to voter. and
2] the main reasoning the that Republicans do not act on immigration reform is NOT to keep a ready cheap labor force.[/QUOTE]


Then what is the reason?
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Redress said:
Please warn when linking to WND. SOme of us do not like giving page views to a source that lies so often, and promotes conspiracy nonsense.
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You mean please warn when linking to any source other than left wing media so you can shut your eyes plug your ears and sing loudly, LA LA LA LA
 
WCH said:
What about the 'purse'?
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Does it cost more or less for Obama not to deport illegal aliens? Cutting funds for executive immigration enforcement folks grants more amnesty (lack of deportation), and to more "bad folks", than what Obama has proposed.
 
lifeisshort said:
You mean please warn when linking to any source other than left wing media so you can shut your eyes plug your ears and sing loudly, LA LA LA LA
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Well, no. That is neither what I said nor what I meant.
 
1750Texan said:
That assessment of immigration is old, tired, and just plain incorrect.

It proves two things.
1] you do not understand the process going from non-citizen, to citizen, to voter. and
2] the main reasoning the that Republicans do not act on immigration reform is NOT to keep a ready cheap labor force.
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Upon what, exactly, do you base that (bolded above) assertion?

I will offer yet another "primary" reason that republicants will not push for more federal immigration law enforcement; there is no "small government" solution to more/better immigration law enforcement.

Try to imagine a republicant demanding that we borrow and spend to get rid of those illegals now working in the US.

What current federal spending would they propose that we cut to "pay for" that effort or do you think that they would call for more taxes to fund that effort instead?
 
Redress said:
Please warn when linking to WND. SOme of us do not like giving page views to a source that lies so often, and promotes conspiracy nonsense.
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Well then, you should be giving up most of the MS media, Daily Kos, the Demo Underground and Media Matters.
 
MMC said:
Well then, you should be giving up most of the MS media, Daily Kos, the Demo Underground and Media Matters.
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Hard to give up stuff I don't use...

Try again, next time with less fail.
 
Redress said:
Hard to give up stuff I don't use...

Try again, next time with less fail.
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I never fail when it comes to you Redress.....but thanks for helping me set yourself out, on JUST HOW MUCH you Don't Know. Much appreciated! :lol:
 
Tameamea said:
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How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.
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Mornin' Tameamea.
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Savage isn't the only one.....even Cruz came out with ways to go at BO. Bottomline BO will announce.....Reid told UNIVISION that BO will announce this Week.

Most anything will come after Reid loses most of his crew and power. But the Republicans do have a way to deal with BO. What they will do is pass a Separate Funding Bill that.....Specifically limits BO's ability to implement executive amnesty. There wont be anything BO or the Demos can do. Except try to Spin some yarn as to what the Repubs are doing.



How Republicans Will Respond To Obama's Executive Amnesty.....

Regardless of when President Obama announces his plan to give work permits and Social Security numbers to millions of illegal immigrants, House Republicans are now expected to pass a short-term government funding bill early this December that will allow them to defund Obama's work permit giveaway early next year.

The Washington Examiner's David Drucker reports:

This stopgap measure could take two forms, depending on the scope of an executive order. It could fully fund the government at current levels, including the Department of Homeland Security that oversees immigration, and run through February or March. Or it could provide for a short-term continuing resolution for DHS while fully funding the rest of the government through the remainder of fiscal 2015. The latter option is favored by Rep. Tom Price, R-Ga., the likely next chairman of the House Budget Committee......snip~

How Republicans Will Respond To Obama's Executive Amnesty - Conn Carroll
 
Michael Savage? :lamo
 
Tameamea said:
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How come no one in Congress (apart from Savage) knows a harmless and legal way to stop Obama from putting his executive orders in action? And if Savage is right about this way, why other ‘activists’ prefer to frighten us with impeachment and government shutdown? I got questions now about qualification of the congressmen, and actual goals of this fuss around these executive actions.
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Congress can't even pass the Keystone Pipeline bill. How are they going to pass a bill to nullify an executive order?

Better to leap and hoot and shout "impeachment". Leaping and hooting is something that they're actually able to do.
 
MMC said:
I never fail when it comes to you Redress.....but thanks for helping me set yourself out, on JUST HOW MUCH you Don't Know. Much appreciated! :lol:
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Except you did fail by making a charge that was not true, And now you are compounding the fail. Well done!
 
Redress said:
Except you did fail by making a charge that was not true, And now you are compounding the fail. Well done!
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Except I didn't, which is why you were begging to not see certain sources. But don't worry, You won't get any complaint out of me on how much you don't know.

That was your own admission. Just sayin!
 
MMC said:
Except I didn't, which is why you were begging to not see certain sources. But don't worry, You won't get any complaint out of me on how much you don't know.

That was your own admission. Just sayin!
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Debate by making **** up is kinda sad. But watching you continue to fail cheers me right up.
 
lifeisshort said:
I don't think either party in gov is anti amnesty. Dems want voters and a bigger uneducated population to manipulate while reps are afraid to make Hispanics mad and want cheap labor.
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It must be weird to live in that weird little bubble where you think liberals rely on uneducated voters. You know, with all those evil liberal professors, climatologists, writers, actors, etc, aka the uneducated.

You should take a look at a map of where each party gets their votes from, and then rethink that determination. Liberals get the intercity vote, true, but the entire conservative base relies on the rural America. A real fountain for intelligence... LOL.
 
Redress said:
Debate by making **** up is kinda sad. But watching you continue to fail cheers me right up.
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Well, you do need to remember that part about discussing. Not so much Debating. One must first start a discussion to lead into Debate.

But many of us here do get a chuckle when you are attempting to try. Which always cheers me up.
 
whysoserious said:
It must be weird to live in that weird little bubble where you think liberals rely on uneducated voters. You know, with all those evil liberal professors, climatologists, writers, actors, etc, aka the uneducated.

You should take a look at a map of where each party gets their votes from, and then rethink that determination. Liberals get the intercity vote, true, but
the entire conservative base relies on the rural America. A real fountain for intelligence... LOL.
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We grow your food and produce the bulk of your energy. See how long you can get by without it. Besides, Gruber said you guys were stupid, and he's a really really smart man. Just ask him.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Does it cost more or less for Obama not to deport illegal aliens? Cutting funds for executive immigration enforcement folks grants more amnesty (lack of deportation), and to more "bad folks", than what Obama has proposed.
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They can cut line item costs from the amnesty bill to make it harder to implement....I hope.
 
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