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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I sure hope that injustice to American citizens (permanent green card) doesn't happen, as that means they get to keep their ill-gotten gains and Americans whom they stole from don't get restitution justice.

    That's just wrong.

    But, if by virtue of having that permanent green card means they can apply for citizenship .. and get preferential treatment because they're already here and have been here so long ...

    The only way "they cannot vote" works in this lesser of many evils solution is if they can never become citizens.


    I was told there are perm Green Cards.....but they don't have US citizenship. Nor can they vote. But are legal here, pay taxes and pay their way.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I was told there are perm Green Cards.....but they don't have US citizenship. Nor can they vote. But are legal here, pay taxes and pay their way.
    Yes .. but .. it's still a step in the direction of eventual citizenship.

    The camel gets its nose (amnesty-legalization) under the tent, as they say in the Middle East, and thus the rest (citizenship) is sure to follow.

    If these green cards were temporary and they come with a "forever you can never be a citizen unless you leave and file papers and wait in line like everyone else), then this evil wouldn't be as evil.

    But these green cards are permanent, and they don't come with a "you can never ever be a citizen" clause.

    So they get to stay, and keep Americans' jobs, and pay taxes that Americans are supposed to be paying.

    So they get to pay their way .. pay their way out of being brought to justice for their multiple crimes, pay their way out of having to make restitution to Americans and give back their stolen goods.

    Though this may be what Obama has in mind, it's simply wrong, and for so many reasons.
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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Yes .. but .. it's still a step in the direction of eventual citizenship.

    The camel gets its nose (amnesty-legalization) under the tent, as they say in the Middle East, and thus the rest (citizenship) is sure to follow.

    If these green cards were temporary and they come with a "forever you can never be a citizen unless you leave and file papers and wait in line like everyone else), then this evil wouldn't be as evil.

    But these green cards are permanent, and they don't come with a "you can never ever be a citizen" clause.

    So they get to stay, and keep Americans' jobs, and pay taxes that Americans are supposed to be paying.

    So they get to pay their way .. pay their way out of being brought to justice for their multiple crimes, pay their way out of having to make restitution to Americans and give back their stolen goods.

    Though this may be what Obama has in mind, it's simply wrong, and for so many reasons.

    Heya OG. Yeah, not that I don't think it takes away from those born here. I am not found of increasing Worker Visas and Student Visas either.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Word is, Obama will reveal his anticipated EO on the 21st. That's the day after tomorrow. If he does show his hand, then we'll actually know what we're discussing the day after tomorrow.

    Knowing what we're discussing... now that will be refreshing, don't you think?
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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    What about the 'purse'?
    There are only so many resources. The executive branch at any level of government has prosecutorial discretion as to where to best apply those resources. For example: police officers may have a policy to not pull anyone over unless they are 10+ miles an hour over the speed limit. You could argue that they're unilaterally increasing in the speed limit by 10 miles an hour. But we all understand the necessity of such a policy. It doesn't make the police force lawless or dictatorial.

    Congress could certainly use the power of the purse to allocate additional resources towards deportation. But threatening to cut off resources to protest an action when the entire justification for that action is a lack of resources.. Well that's just a bit counterproductive.

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