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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    If that's what the Repubs are thinking, then they better think twice, as amnesty and legalization of 22-23 million people will cause wage scales to plummet, and that won't make many Americans happy when they're fending off the resultant depressing recession.

    Also, since legalization will likely lead to citizenship, making these "undocumented Democrats" voters, the Repubs can kiss the popular-voted Presidency of the U.S. good-bye for many decades.

    No, there's two good reasons here why the Repubs have not put forth any legislation on the matter.

    But the best reason, of course, is that there's nothing wrong with our present systems relating to the problem of illegal aliens -- their statutes simply need to be enforced.

    Legislation can be passed wherein they can be legal to get a perm green card.....but then they cannot Vote.

    Demos wont like it.....but once they lose the Presidency. Nothing they can do about it, huh?

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    He said the American voters are stupid - that includes you. I'm probably about as concerned about what Gruber thinks of me as you are.
    I could be stupid, but it's certainly not dependent on my vote. I never supported the ACA, and that lack of support was precisely because of it's impossibility from the start, and because I could see the Gruberization that took place to get it passed as a result.

    I have no problem with people who work an honest job, but for this guy to come in and say the liberal base is uneducated is laughable.
    Just keep in mind that the people saying such things are actually running the government here right now. We're paying them for this.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yep since there was a border enforcement assumption, taking away DHS monies would stifle some of.it.

    Here is the one wrinkle.



    One wrinkle in the emerging Republican plan is that the agency that actually issues work permits, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, is almost entirely (95 percent) self-funded. That means that during past government shutdowns 97 precent of USCIS employees kept working.

    This does not mean, however, that Obama could veto legislation that defunded USCIS and his amnesty would continue without a hitch. USCIS only has a set number of employees, and without new legislation or funding, Obama does not have the ability to significantly boost their output.

    At current staffing levels, USCIS issues about 1 million green cards per year. And when Obama enacted his first executive amnesty, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals in 2012, wait times for legal immigrants to get their visas tripled from under five months to over 15 months. Only about 1 million illegal immigrants were eligible to apply for DACA amnesty and only about 600,000 were given amnesty......snip~


    How Republicans Will Respond To Obama's Executive Amnesty - Conn Carroll

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I could be stupid, but it's certainly not dependent on my vote. I never supported the ACA, and that lack of support was precisely because of it's impossibility from the start, and because I could see the Gruberization that took place to get it passed as a result.
    It was as dependent on your vote as it was mine.

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    Just keep in mind that the people saying such things are actually running the government here right now. We're paying them for this.
    If you are asking me to defend politicians, you're talking to the wrong guy. I hate politicians. They are the most useless group of people on the face of the Earth. How great - a people that make decisions for the rest of us, and yet they know nothing about anything.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    If that's what the Repubs are thinking, then they better think twice, as amnesty and legalization of 22-23 million people will cause wage scales to plummet...
    It's funny to see the right now be concerned about wages. I'm 62 years old and retired. I remember the past 40 years of working in a machine shop. Wage have not nearly kept up since Reagan.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    It was as dependent on your vote as it was mine.
    Even so, I was part of the loyal opposition.

    If you are asking me to defend politicians, you're talking to the wrong guy. I hate politicians. They are the most useless group of people on the face of the Earth. How great - a people that make decisions for the rest of us, and yet they know nothing about anything.
    I don't hate 'em. I expect them to be what they are, and that's not a whole lot different than your description.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    What amazes me most about all this is that so many people are openly willing to defend lawless rule by a President--any President--of the U.S. Millions of Americans must now either be ignorant of basic civics, or be apathetic about maintaining a free country.

    The Constitution gives the President the power to "grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States . . . ." Art. II, sec. 2, cl. 1. This pardon power is entirely the President's. The purpose of it is to allow the President, in unusual cases, to relieve a person from being punished by the law where special circumstances made that punishment unjust.

    This is something like the power British monarchs had had. There is a famous old case from England involving two survivors of a shipwreck, at death's door after days at sea in a lifeboat with no food or water. In desperation, they killed a third man--who was even worse off and would certainly have died within hours anyway--and ate him. This saved their lives, but legally it was murder. When the two finally got back to England and the facts came out, they were tried and convicted. This upheld the law. But to prevent the injustice of punishing the men for murder when they had acted under such bizarre circumstances, the Queen later pardoned them.

    Not quite like pardoning a whole class of people numbering in the millions, I'd say. It distorts the pardon power into a license for a President to ignore the expressed will of the people by making the law say whatever he wants.

    And it is just as false for the President to explain away his refusal to arrest or deport millions of illegal aliens as "prosecutorial discretion." It is no such thing, by any stretch of the imagination. The purpose of prosecutorial discretion is simple--to direct the fixed resources of the Justice Department where you will get the most bang for the buck. It might make sense, for example, to have federal prosecutors invest less time and effort in prosecuting minor marijuana offenses and more in prosecuting major traffickers in heroin and cocaine. But to use this power as nothing but an excuse to fail to enforce laws you personally disagree with is to abuse it. It is a violation of the President's constitutional duty to "take care that the laws be faithfully executed." Art. II, sec. 3.

    Worse than either the abuse of the pardon power or of prosecutorial discretion, though, is granting illegal aliens positive benefits such as work permits or certificates of dispensation from deportation. There is not even a scrap of authority, however far-fetched, that a President can cite for doing that. It is completely lawless. I hope the House will do its duty and refuse to fund this lawlessness. We don't have kings in this country, and if we want to keep it a free country, we can never afford to let any President act like one.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Please warn when linking to WND. SOme of us do not like giving page views to a source that lies so often, and promotes conspiracy nonsense.
    I read the quote, saw I was in the non-MSM forum and elected not to click the link. I suggest the same process for you.

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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Legislation can be passed wherein they can be legal to get a perm green card.....but then they cannot Vote.

    Demos wont like it.....but once they lose the Presidency. Nothing they can do about it, huh?
    I sure hope that injustice to American citizens (permanent green card) doesn't happen, as that means they get to keep their ill-gotten gains and Americans whom they stole from don't get restitution justice.

    That's just wrong.

    But, if by virtue of having that permanent green card means they can apply for citizenship .. and get preferential treatment because they're already here and have been here so long ...

    The only way "they cannot vote" works in this lesser of many evils solution is if they can never become citizens.
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    Re: Michael Savage: Here's how to stop Obama Amnesty

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    It's funny to see the right now be concerned about wages. I'm 62 years old and retired. I remember the past 40 years of working in a machine shop. Wage have not nearly kept up since Reagan.
    Everyone should be concerned about wage scales plummeting, which is what will happen the moment millions of illegal aliens get legalized to work above the table in America.

    It's the plummeting that's the great concern.

    That will crush the buying power of so many people that layoffs will occur, further crushing buying power, resulting in further layoffs ...
    You don't trust Trump? Well, there's only one way to leverage him to do what's economically right for us all: Powerful American Political Alliance. Got courage?! .. and a mere $5.00?

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