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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm sorry, but can you please say specifically why regulating the banks will solve the issue of child homelessness?
    Because he hates capitalism n stuff.

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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    So more of the same gets kids off the streets how exactly??.. Bigger government is your answer?
    He wants to pad the pockets of the rich folk in DC in the hope they'll let a few dollars trickle down to the children.
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm sorry, but can you please say specifically why regulating the banks will solve the issue of child homelessness?
    Have you ever seen the movie about the Scrooge? He perceived the banks that way, deny food for little Tiny Tim.
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Because he hates capitalism n stuff.
    I think you may be right.

    The correlation between banks and child homelessness is lost on me. Regulate the banks so that they are legally responsible for the care and housing of children?
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Lol. I am sure that is his answer, but I always love to hear what people who hate 'trickle down' would offer in its place.
    Breaking the alliance between our modern day wealth based aristocracy and our modern day government aristocracy would be a big help, then again so would looking more seriously at the real results of FED montary policy actions in concert with government economic policy would also help. The truth of the matter is we have seen an economic model in this nation, roughly 50 years old now, that for the most part has benefitted the highest income quintile at the expense of most others. It is beyond easy to prove, look at income growth overall for the highest income quintile vs. all others from say 1975 to present.

    Take our most recent recovery. From 2008 to present the lowest income quintile is a larger pool today than it was then, but with stagnant wages held back by the difference between income growth and realized inflation. From 2008 to present the highest income quintile recovered the quickest of the set, mainly due to FED action helping the stock market become overbought. Income quintiles 2 - 4 are still behind (but to be fair I read that the 4th income quintile is almost where it was in 2008.) At the end of the 2nd quarter of 2014, labor participation rates were at historic lows and we are not all that better off now.

    Our economic stimulus is often squandered, our monetary policy pits income quintiles against one another, and overall our interest in protecing wealth has resulted in a worsening gap between the highest income levels and all others. That is not entirely the fault of failed trickle down economic thinking, but a combination of that thinking with way too much government involved in way too much economic micro-management. Our economic model of a debt based consumer market is killing us, but is being driven entirely by ole (D) and (R) in bed with wealth.

    You break that and mixed economic models that lean towards market has a chance. Until then expect more of the same, a bubble then pop debt based economic model devoid of any real economic principle of lowering the amplitude of the economic cycle for sustainable growth. As opposed to the present model, that ensures the economic cycle amplitude is made far worse. We know this is fact as we have had anything but sustainable growth at any reasonable period in the past 50 years. Again, easy to prove. Ask yourself how many economic disasters we have had to digest during our modern economic model? On top of that shuffle on over to looking at how much debt we have to carry dealing with all of them.

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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The point they are trying to make is that folks living in shelters are just as homeless as one living on a steam grate or park bench.

    The point that I was trying to make is that one is not homeless simply because they are unable to pay their rent by working. Whether in housing funded by insurance, gov't assistance or charity if they are not on the streets or camping in a tent or car then they are not homeless. If you have decent shelter that is simply temporary then you are not homeless.
    Live in your car until next spring. Then tell me about how that is not homelessness.
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Of course the percentage of homelessness among children is up in the U.S. compared to about eight years ago.

    It's because the percentage of homelessness among their parents is up.

    And why is it up?

    Because of the liberal and conservative strange-bedfellow alliance to push sub-prime security mortgages on those who couldn't really afford even those.

    And, they really started to push it around the turn of the century when off-shoring and out-sourcing American jobs were also being pushed.

    So sub-primers, as they were called, got their house .. and they began to furnish it .. .. and, one by one at first, these warehouse workers, manufacturing workers, transportation workers, carpenters, iron workers, plumbers, and the like, they began to lose their job to people in other countries overseas.

    And then the job-loss rate picked up, as companies had to compete, and wage-slaves in other countries were cheaper to hire than sub-primers in America ..

    .. And soon by the hundreds .. then the thousands .. .. sub-primers lost their jobs .. and couldn't find work any more .. and defaulted on their loans when the variable rates went up.

    Meanwhile, very unscrupulous Wall Street types saw the writing on the worthless securities wall, and they concocted one of the biggest frauds in U.S. financial history, creating the sub-prime securities fiasco that crashed us all into the Great Recession.

    When no one could then get their weekly business loan, they laid people off, and they closed their doors .. and unemployment shot up to 25%, the accurate rate.

    Millions of adults couldn't find work .. and they became homeless .. they and their children.

    Today, the accurate unemployment rate is down to around 12 percent perhaps -- it's hard to tell, since so many have fallen off the radar.

    But, the percentage of living-wage jobs compared to before the Great Recession is way down, many still off-shored and out-sourced to wage slaves in other countries, not to mention in-sourced wage-slave illegals.

    So, yes, there are many more homeless Americans in the U.S. then their were .. many more .. and, of course, that includes their children.

    What's the solution?

    I'm not sure.

    But, one thing's certain: it won't involve any concocted by the wings of the political spectrum -- they're the ones who got us into this increased homeless mess in the first place.
    You possess uncanny insight and perspective.

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    What is the solution?

    I'm not sure either.
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Lol. I am sure that is his answer, but I always love to hear what people who hate 'trickle down' would offer in its place.
    Fire hydrant down?
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    Live in your car until next spring. Then tell me about how that is not homelessness.
    Reading is for the mental... I mean fundamental.

    if they are not on the streets or camping in a tent or car then they are not homeless.
    I did phrase that a bit awkwardly, but I do not consider those camped out in a car to have a home.
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Mentioned earlier in this thread was the stipulation that our early government was based on the government of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire handled many things easily. The only thing that they could not handle, which led to their demise, was the huge population of homeless beggars with matches.

    We must do something about our rapidly growing homeless population before they think that since they don't have anything, neither should you.

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