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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Reading is for the mental... I mean fundamental.



    I did phrase that a bit awkwardly, but I do not consider those camped out in a car to have a home.
    Ah, OK. That makes more sense. My bad.
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm sorry, but can you please say specifically why regulating the banks will solve the issue of child homelessness?
    Who do you think was the main culprit in the economic downturn in 2008? The banks.


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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

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    Serious question, have you considered Canada?
    What about it? A big country to the north of us. What about Canada needs "consideration"?


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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    a democracy is not true republic.
    Democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive..

    democracy puts all direct power into the people...one single enity......this kind of action causes majority rule..ie tyranny.
    Not not democracy. A direct democracy does that. A representative democracy does not.
    There are many forms of democracy.

    a republic separates direct power, the people have some the states have some, which prevents tyranny.
    Not really.


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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Who do you think was the main culprit in the economic downturn in 2008? The banks.
    And they are regulated now.

    So the big banks melting down in 2008 are responsible for the child homelessness problem in California in 2014?
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And they are regulated now.
    Yup they are "regulated" now, and were "regulated" then...


    So the big banks melting down in 2008 are responsible for the child homelessness problem in California in 2014?
    Part of the reason. When the melt down happened how many people went homeless and still remain homeless?


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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yup they are "regulated" now, and were "regulated" then...



    Part of the reason. When the melt down happened how many people went homeless and still remain homeless?
    No, Dodd-Frank was passed after 2008.

    So can you cite some sources that show the California homelessness problem is a direct result of the banks melting down in 2008 please? I'd like to see this. And understand how something that happened almost 7 years ago has prohibited people from finding a home since then. Can you show that most of these homeless children are the offspring of people who lost all of their money, their jobs and their homes because of the financial services problems in 2008?
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, Dodd-Frank was passed after 2008.
    You do realize the banks were "regulated" before Dodd-Frank was passed correct? And Dodd-Frank has no teeth?

    So can you cite some sources that show the California homelessness problem is a direct result of the banks melting down in 2008 please? I'd like to see this. And understand how something that happened almost 7 years ago has prohibited people from finding a home since then. Can you show that most of these homeless children are the offspring of people who lost all of their money, their jobs and their homes because of the financial services problems in 2008?
    Yea.
    Chart of the Day: Recession-Induced Homelessness About To Skyrocket | Mother Jones
    Facts and Figures: The Homeless . NOW on PBS


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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Democracy and republic are not mutually exclusive..

    in the times of the founders there is no such thing as a democratic republic.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Not not democracy. A direct democracy does that. A representative democracy does not.
    There are many forms of democracy.
    Not really.

    i am not speaking of direct democracy,..if we had that form, the people would vote on every issue.

    under a republic, the people are represented by the house, those members are [directly] elected by the people for the lower chamber...

    the states are represented by the senate, those members are [directly] elected by the state legislature of the states, for the upper chamber......

    this way both chambers are elected differently.....this is just one of the separation of powers in the Constitution., the people do not directly elect/control all of congress and its law making, and the states do not control directly either , both chambers counter the other, so that democracy does not take over our government, or an aristocracy does not take over our government

    for legislative bills to pass congress, the interest of the people via the house, and the interest of the states[state legislatures] via the senate, must be represented..so you have both interest represented.......the President represents the interest of the union as a whole.

    this way, the interest of the people, states, and the union are represented.

    the president is elected by electors.....not the people, not the state legislatures, but 435 people who are now picked by political parties, in early America, electors were elected by district elections, or elected by a state wide election, but the political parties have put an end to that.

    by having ALL 3 politicians elected by 3 different modes of election, this makes it a mixed government, a republic.

    power is separated on purpose so that no 1 single entity is directly electing all 3 politicians , because to put all power directly into 1 set of hands to elect......is tyranny.
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    Re: Homelessness among US children at all-time high

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    You do realize the banks were "regulated" before Dodd-Frank was passed correct? And Dodd-Frank has no teeth?


    Yea.
    Chart of the Day: Recession-Induced Homelessness About To Skyrocket | Mother Jones
    Facts and Figures: The Homeless . NOW on PBS

    Ah, so Dodd-Frank is a failure. On this we agree. Did you let the Democrats who pretended it was the greatest reform in history know this? I've been posting that for years. I'll be sure to quote you so you can join in the next time I post that.

    Neat link to Mother Jones, but "projections" from 2011 don't answer the question. The PBS link doesn't address it either. Anything from today that shows that most of the homeless children in CA are homeless because their parents lost everything because of the 2008 meltdown, and that regulating the banks in a meaningful way today will directly result in them getting homes?
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