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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Figure you don't pay attention or to context.
    You do not know that.

    All you know is that he opposes what Obama has proposed, which is a good idea.
    Give it up, you lost. Ted Cruz opposes Net Neutrality, and is lying about wanting to keep the Internet the same. The Supreme Court itself presented the public utility option as a way of protecting the Internet from throttling.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Give it up, you lost. Ted Cruz opposes Net Neutrality, and is lying about wanting to keep the Internet the same. The Supreme Court itself presented the public utility option as a way of protecting the Internet from throttling.
    If this is about winning and losing, you are the one who lost as you are speaking about that which you do not know.
    And as previously pointed out as well, what the Sct has to say on this matter is irrelevant.

    Regulating it as a Utility is not needed.


    You haven't made a valid argument as to why classifying it as a Utility is a good idea.
    All you have done is whine that Cruz opposes Obama's idea. Yeah, you clearly lost.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You haven't made a valid argument as to why classifying it as a Utility is a good idea.
    I haven't made an argument, I've stated a fact. Classifying the Internet as a utility protects it from throttling by ISPs.

    I haven't whined about Cruz, either. I've quoted his exact position on Net Neutrality.

    Got anything else?

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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I haven't made an argument, I've stated a fact.
    No you haven't. You have stated a flawed opinion as argument.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Classifying the Internet as a utility protects it from throttling by ISPs.
    1. That isn't a fact. That will not happen unless steps are taken after it is classified as such. As classification does not automatically cause ISP's not to throttle.
    2. It isn't just about throttling. It is about packet prioritization. And both of those will continue to happen regardless of any NN.
    3. That isn't an argument or a fact as to why obtaining NN this way is appropriate, let alone wise or best.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    I haven't whined about Cruz, either. I've quoted his exact position on Net Neutrality.
    Wrong. You have whined about what you think his position is. You have taken what he has said out of context and have assumed without knowing.
    So again, since you do not pay attention. Being against obtaining NN by classifying it as Obama wants to, does not mean one is against NN.
    What about that do you not understand?


    Classifying it as a Utility opens it up to more regulation than it needs, causes it to be taxed when we do not need it to be taxed, and regulation usually stifles innovation.

    So no. What Obama wants to do is wrong and not at all the appropriate thing to do.
    You want NN, obtain it another way.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    You want NN, obtain it another way.
    And what way is Ted Cruz suggesting?

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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    And what way is Ted Cruz suggesting?
    And again. He does not have to suggest anything to be in opposition to a bad idea.
    Thinking he does is absurd.

    But as you already know, he has already stated that it should remain the way it is. So stop going in circles by asking that which you already know.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    He does not have to suggest anything to be in opposition to a bad idea.
    But as you already know, he has already stated that it should remain the way it is.
    Which disingenuous, because Ted Cruz knows perfectly well that without some form of protection/regulation, the Internet is in dire jeopardy of changing drastically. If there are no other options for preserving neutrality, Ted Cruz absolutely supports changing the Internet in favor of ISP throttlers. So in effect, he's lying.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Which disingenuous, because Ted Cruz knows perfectly well that without some form of protection/regulation, the Internet is in dire jeopardy of changing drastically. If there are no other options for preserving neutrality, Ted Cruz absolutely supports changing the Internet in favor of ISP throttlers. So in effect, he's lying.
    Bs. On all counts.
    That in no way makes opposition to a bad idea disingenuous.

    Dire jeopardy?
    No, you do not know that it will change, that is just another assumption on your part.

    And now you are just being dishonest. You have no clue what his position is other than remaining the way it is now.

    You haven't made one honest claim or argument. Everything you have said thus far is nonsense.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Bs. On all counts.
    That in no way makes opposition to a bad idea disingenuous.

    Dire jeopardy?
    No, you do not know that it will change, that is just another assumption on your part.

    And now you are just being dishonest. You have no clue what his position is other than remaining the way it is now.

    You haven't made one honest claim or argument. Everything you have said thus far is nonsense.
    Blahbility blah blah. You used too many words to say absolutely nothing.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Hits Back At Al Franken On Net Neutrality

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Blahbility blah blah. You used too many words to say absolutely nothing.
    Said the person who has provided nothing of substance and only whined obviously because he does not like Cruz.
    This is your sign.
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