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Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

solletica said:
This kind of crap sells to right wingers because the right is too damn stupid to understand "net neutrality" or any other issue (i. e. global warming), so they'll believe anything that sounds good to them. A right winger will say he opposes something, but that can never explain to you what that something actually is.
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As Ron Paul wants to off the Fed. A ridiculous idea. Large complex first world economies need something like the Fed to manage them and their inevitable excesses.

So there's not a single group who's cornered stupid nor crazy stuff. Easy does it now.
 
Hatuey said:
Show me the post where I've discussed Obama's policies. Thanks. I can wait as long as it takes. Show us the post.
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This issue is Obama policy. How do you not know that?
 
Fletch said:
This issue is Obama policy. How do you not know that?
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No it isn't. It's about net neutrality, which is not an Obama policy at all. Now show me where I discussed Obama's policies. I'll wait. If you can't show us, then retract.
 
Hatuey said:
No it isn't. It's about net neutrality, which is not an Obama policy at all. Now show me where I discussed Obama's policies. I'll wait. If you can't show us, then retract.
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You are just trolling now aren't you. How net neutrality is to be achieved is Obama policy. Now, are you going to continue to pretend not to understand this or are you going to give honesty a shot?
 
Fletch said:
You are just trolling now aren't you. How net neutrality is to be achieved is Obama policy. Now, are you going to continue to pretend not to understand this or are you going to give honesty a shot?
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Can you or can't you show me in what post I discussed Obama's policies after you stated that's what I'd been doing? I'll wait.
 
Hatuey said:
Can you or can't you show me in what post I discussed Obama's policies after you stated that's what I'd been doing? I'll wait.
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Yes. You and I have been discussing the Obama policy of having the FCC regulate providers under article II of the telecommunications law
 
Fletch said:
Yes. You and I have been discussing the Obama policy of having the FCC regulate providers under article II of the telecommunications law
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Nonsense. We've been discussing why Ted Cruz' statement about net neutrality is flawed. If I'm wrong, show me where I've discussed Obama's policies. Point to the specific post. Thanks.
 
Hatuey said:
Nonsense. We've been discussing why Ted Cruz' statement about net neutrality is flawed. If I'm wrong, show me where I've discussed Obama's policies. Point to the specific post. Thanks.
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You and I have never discussed what Cruz said. I think my first post touched on it but you and I have not discussed it at all. So...there you go.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Either Cruz is talking out of the wrong end again, or he's been bought and paid for by the major ISPs.
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Maybe Cruz is intelligent enough to know when hehe's being lied to.

That promises from Democrat Politicians to guarantee " fairness " and "equality " are just false narratives to entrap the " stupid " American voter

I would hate to be one of these peoples suckers.

But, then again I'm a Conservative and I'm not predisposed to BS from dishonest Politicians.
 
Fletch said:
You and I have never discussed what Cruz said. I think my first post touched on it but you and I have not discussed it at all. So...there you go.
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You're now officially lying:

Fletch said:
Hes not the only person, I am not sure why it is Ted Cruz is wrong. Perhaps he means the way Obamacare took a bad situation and made it worse is the analogy he is making. Or it could be that since Obamacare was a pack of lies meant to dupe a stupid American public, how can we be sure he isn't about to do the same thing again. Obama has no credibility and it is advisable to all 'stupid Americans' to be very skeptical of everything he says.
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Fletch said:
So like everything else, this boils down to money. Liberals don't want to pay when they can get the state to get it for them for free. What else is new. So it is like Obamacare after all. Thanks for clearing this up.
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Fletch said:
Are you one of those people who think that taxpayer funded services aren't free for some people?
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Ever since then, we've been discussing the meaning of net neutrality and why it is important. Again, if you're right and we've been discussing Obama's policies, I welcome you to show a single post on them. Thanks.
 
Hatuey said:
You're now officially lying:







Ever since then, we've been discussing the meaning of net neutrality and why it is important. Again, if you're right and we've been discussing Obama's policies, I welcome you to show a single post on them. Thanks.
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Like I said, my very first post touched on the subject. The other two quotes of mine you posted were NOT a response to you. So as I said, you and I have not discussed Cruz and you not only just proved that you demonstrated that the liar here is you. Thanks for playing
 
Fletch said:
Like I said, my very first post touched on the subject. The other two quotes of mine you posted were NOT a response to you. So as I said, you and I have not discussed Cruz and you not only just proved that you demonstrated that the liar here is you. Thanks for playing
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Lol, you keep lying and it doesn't void the fact that you've yet to demonstrate where I've discussed anything other than Ted Cruz' statements on net neutrality and what net neutrality means. Can you show us where I discussed Obama's policies or not?
 
Hatuey said:
Lol, you keep lying and it doesn't void the fact that you've yet to demonstrate where I've discussed anything other than Ted Cruz' statements on net neutrality and what net neutrality means. Can you show us where I discussed Obama's policies or not?
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You continue to be pretty free with your language. It's one thing to show where someone's statements are not accurate. It's something else again to claim someone is purposely making false statements in order to mislead. From what I've seen, people usually turn to personal attacks because they realize their arguments aren't convincing.
 
matchlight said:
You continue to be pretty free with your language. It's one thing to show where someone's statements are not accurate. It's something else again to claim someone is purposely making false statements in order to mislead. From what I've seen, people usually turn to personal attacks because they realize their arguments aren't convincing.
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Nope, he claimed I discussed Obama's policies. I asked him to show where. I've discussed nothing other than Ted Cruz's statements and net neutrality. Can Fletch show us different? We can only hope. :shrug:
 
Hatuey said:
Lol, you keep lying and it doesn't void the fact that you've yet to demonstrate where I've discussed anything other than Ted Cruz' statements on net neutrality and what net neutrality means. Can you show us where I discussed Obama's policies or not?
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So having been caught in a lie, rather than acknowledge your error you change the subject. I have already answered your question here about 3-4 posts up so there is no real reason to repeat it. Why don't you just man up and admit your mistake? Or are going to just prove me right again that honesty is not a virtue to the left.
 
Fletch said:
So having been caught in a lie, rather than acknowledge your error you change the subject. I have already answered your question here about 3-4 posts up so there is no real reason to repeat it. Why don't you just man up and admit your mistake? Or are going to just prove me right again that honesty is not a virtue to the left.
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10+ posts and I'm still waiting for you to show where I discussed Obama's policies. I'm waiting, Fletch.
 
Fenton said:
Maybe Cruz is intelligent enough to know when hehe's being lied to.
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Maybe, but he hasn't showed many signs of it so far.

That promises from Democrat Politicians to guarantee " fairness " and "equality " are just false narratives to entrap the " stupid " American voter

I would hate to be one of these peoples suckers.

But, then again I'm a Conservative and I'm not predisposed to BS from dishonest Politicians.
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No, you're a partisan who's predisposed to BS from dishonest ISPs.
 
Hatuey said:
10+ posts and I'm still waiting for you to show where I discussed Obama's policies. I'm waiting, Fletch.
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Lol. Post 382. I'm not going to keep repeating myself to a clearly dishonest poster.
 
Fletch said:
Lol. Post 382. I'm not going to keep repeating myself to a clearly dishonest poster.
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Fletch said:
Yes. You and I have been discussing the Obama policy of having the FCC regulate providers under article II of the telecommunications law
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It's a repetition of what you've stated now. Now when did I mention article II or the FCC. Can you point to one of my posts on the matter or not? Simple yes or no question. Making up more lies doesn't make your statements any less flawed.
 
Hatuey said:
It's a repetition of what you've stated now. Now when did I mention article II or the FCC. Can you point to one of my posts on the matter or not? Simple yes or no question. Making up more lies doesn't make your statements any less flawed.
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I never claimed you mentioned either. Maybe you ought to try reading what I write. You know Obama is president, right? Or are you going to argue about that too? And you know he has a position on this, right? Now, do I have to explain what that position is and why it matters or is that something you think you can handle all by yourself?
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Maybe, but he hasn't showed many signs of it so far.



No, you're a partisan who's predisposed to BS from dishonest ISPs.
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And, the Democrats have been super honest about their legislation over the past several years?
 
Fletch said:
I never claimed you mentioned either.
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Lol. You're really doubling down on the false claims aren't you?

You and I have been discussing the Obama policy of having the FCC regulate providers under article II of the telecommunications law
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Maybe you ought to try reading what I write. You know Obama is president, right? Or are you going to argue about that too? And you know he has a position on this, right? Now, do I have to explain what that position is and why it matters or is that something you think you can handle all by yourself?
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15+ posts on the matter and you've yet to show where I've discussed any of the things you've said. How long is this going to go? If I've been discussing Obama's policies, the FCC regulations and article II, please show us where. Adding more fictional topics of discussions that I've never discussed won't make the conversation about them.
 
Hatuey said:
Lol. You're really doubling down on the false claims aren't you?





15+ posts on the matter and you've yet to show where I've discussed any of the things you've said. How long is this going to go? If I've been discussing Obama's policies, the FCC regulations and article II, please show us where. Adding more fictional topics of discussions that I've never discussed won't make the conversation about them.
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Not at all. That is certainly what I have been discussing with you. I suppose you are just clueless as to what has been discussed. Let's do it this way. Since you proved your own claim that we have been discussing Cruz to be a lie, what is you think we have been arguing about?

But I do find it funny you have been reduced to arguing about what we were arguing about. What are you? 15?
 
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