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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Of course I am serious. You are asking for me to give the government a greater say and more power with regard to the internet (and to trust liberals) and I am balking. Will this new regulatory structure of yours end anything you laid out in your first paragraph? Answer: no.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    "we are reclassifying it so that it stays the same"


    "war is peace"

    "affordable care act"

    When a socialist says one thing, it means the opposite. I mean, seriously, with the magnitude of lies told by this administration, who with a brain is going to believe you need to change something in order to keep it then same? Is that like "we had to pass it [unread] so that you could read it"?

    As is Obama is not already using the internet to spy on all of us?
    You left out "by reducing the proposed spending increase on X from $100 million to only $80 million we are applying the $20 million in savings to program Y".
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    How can I explain this... net neutrality isn't giving the government power over anything. It's ensuring that things stay as they are now. Have you not grasped that detail yet?
    No. You saying so doesn't make it so. Wont treating them as utilities make them subject to the same type of regulations as other utilities? And again, why is this the best solution to the problem you seem to think exists?

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Of course I am serious. You are asking for me to give the government a greater say and more power with regard to the internet (and to trust liberals) and I am balking. Will this new regulatory structure of yours end anything you laid out in your first paragraph? Answer: no.
    The power that the government has to preserve your freedom in this case would be given up to give your isp all the power it wants over your internet use, and result in you paying significantly more for the service you're currently enjoying unhindered. You're arguing against your own interests.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No. You saying so doesn't make it so. Wont treating them as utilities make them subject to the same type of regulations as other utilities? And again, why is this the best solution to the problem you seem to think exists?
    Do you believe the internet is "good as it is?"

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You know, I can always count on you to enter in the middle of a discussion and add exactly zero. Keep up the good work.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Of course I am serious. You are asking for me to give the government a greater say and more power with regard to the internet (and to trust liberals) and I am balking. Will this new regulatory structure of yours end anything you laid out in your first paragraph? Answer: no.
    This isn't a conservative-vs-liberal issue. Net neutrality is good for everybody.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The guy who just minutes ago didn't know why net neutrality was important, is now reverting to catch phrases about liberals.
    To be fair, pretty much every argument on DP turns into catch phrases about liberals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This isn't a conservative-vs-liberal issue. Net neutrality is good for everybody.
    For the hacks, EVERYTHING is a conservative-vs.-liberal issue. If any liberals are pro-net neutrality, it simply MUST be bad.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Do you believe the internet is "good as it is?"
    Sure, I guess so. That isn't my question. My question is, what will treating them as utilities do as far as unforeseen consequences and why is that the best possible solution?

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    What I find interesting is that net neutrality has taken on a whole new meaning in this bill. I'm a huge supporter of net neutrality so, on the bill's face, it seemed like a good idea. Until I read it.

    Republicans want major ISPs to control internet. Democrats want government to control the internet. Why can't we just leave it the **** alone?
    I agree. I'm not really thinking that either of those parties is going to really address the issue AND stop from turning it to their advantage and exploitation. Call it an equal lack of trust in either of them.
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