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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    It's always good for a laugh to see an intelligent, erudite collectivist like Sen. Franken try to educate a dimwitted neocon yokel. The Cruz missile is a typical redneck reich-wing idiot, so dumb he makes Sarah Palin look bright. Of course the lying clowns at Faux News, etc. claim he personally argued eight cases before the Supreme Court of the U.S. as Texas' Attorney General, but any enlightened progressive who knows his Brie and Birkenstocks knows that's just facist propaganda. If there were one of the two who had the intelligence and knowledge of constitutional law it takes to argue a case to the Supreme Court, we all know it would be Stuart Smalley.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Maybe, but he hasn't showed many signs of it so far.



    No, you're a partisan who's predisposed to BS from dishonest ISPs.
    Cruz at least knew Obama was lying through his teeth when he promised that you could " keep your insurance and doctor '.

    That alone qualifies him as exponentially more intelligent than your average Obama supporter, or leftist.

    And yea sure, now ISP's are the bad guys ? Because it used to be the Health Insurance companies, and the leftist took care of that for us didn't they ? Remember ?

    "Idiot voters " had to be lied to for their own good so the Government could make things " equitable and affordable " ( Really expensive )

    But hey, there's something to be said for all of the Leftist who continue stay loyal to a Political party that thinks they're so stupid they need to be lied to fort their own good.

    I wouldn't brag about it ( you would apparently ) but it's pretty impressive.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Cruz at least knew Obama was lying through his teeth when he promised that you could " keep your insurance and doctor '.

    That alone qualifies him as exponentially more intelligent than your average Obama supporter, or leftist.

    And yea sure, now ISP's are the bad guys ? Because it used to be the Health Insurance companies, and the leftist took care of that for us didn't they ? Remember ?

    "Idiot voters " had to be lied to for their own good so the Government could make things " equitable and affordable " ( Really expensive )

    But hey, there's something to be said for all of the Leftist who continue stay loyal to a Political party that thinks they're so stupid they need to be lied to fort their own good.

    I wouldn't brag about it ( you would apparently ) but it's pretty impressive.
    Do you believe the net neutrality argument and the way in which ISPs have conducted themselves is a relatively new development? I'm curious. Mostly because the debate has gone on for nearly 3 decades and the arguments are still the same. On one hand, you have developers, producers and users of content arguing that one source of data should not be given preferential treatment over another and then you have ISPs, arguing that by giving those willing to pay ransoms preference, they are encouraging innovation. Do you think that these positions have only made ISPs look like bad guys ​now?
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Do you believe the net neutrality argument and the way in which ISPs have conducted themselves is a relatively new development? I'm curious. Mostly because the debate has gone on for nearly 3 decades and the arguments are still the same. On one hand, you have developers, producers and users of content arguing that one source of data should not be given preferential treatment over another and then you have ISPs, arguing that by giving those willing to pay ransoms preference, they are encouraging innovation. Do you think that these positions have only made ISPs look like bad guys ​now?

    I don't buy ONE WORD that comes out of this administration. Not ONE. So, I don't trust this administration. I NEVER trusted this administration.

    Long before Gruber opened up the eyes of Millions of Americans I already knew that Liberals lie.

    So a promise form Obama to make things equitable and fair is like a promise from a used car salesman that the 1972 Trans Am I'm looking at only has 30 thousand miles on it's odometer and 1 owner.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I don't buy ONE WORD that comes out of this administration. Not ONE. So, I don't trust this administration. I NEVER trusted this administration.

    Long before Gruber opened up the eyes of Millions of Americans I already knew that Liberals lie.

    So a promise form Obama to make things equitable and fair is like a promise from a used car salesman that the 1972 Trans Am I'm looking at only has 30 thousand miles on it's odometer and 1 owner.
    That is irrelevant to what I asked. I'll highlight my questions again so you can answer them accordingly:

    Do you believe the net neutrality argument and the way in which ISPs have conducted themselves is a relatively new development?
    ...You have developers, producers and users of content arguing that one source of data should not be given preferential treatment over another and then
    - you have ISPs, arguing that by giving those willing to pay ransoms preference, they are encouraging innovation.

    Do you think that these positions have only made ISPs look like bad guys ​now?
    I welcome you to answer the questions. I've been following this debate since I first got into working with creative software, website management and marketing (I did the same for copyright laws) and neither have changed arguments since day one. So with that said, do you believe the Obama admin. is trying to make ISP providers look bad? Or are you aware of the fact that they've looked bad since day 1 for content creators/providers like myself?
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    My take on the whole net neutrality thing is that if it requires a constitutional amendment to ensure that the internet is a neutral place where the speed of data is only limited by the physical infrastructure it travels on.

    I'd ****ing support it.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    My take on the whole net neutrality thing is that if it requires a constitutional amendment to ensure that the internet is a neutral place where the speed of data is only limited by the physical infrastructure it travels on.

    I'd ****ing support it.
    The thing here is that there are some posters who don't quite have an understanding of how long this debate has gone on. They've no idea what it entails or what the repercussions of not having net neutrality are. There is no way a person can argue that giving a company the power to determine how other companies and people use the internet doesn't stifle innovation. It's simply ludicrous. Hell, Google has caught fire for giving preference to some websites over others and they're just a search engine. Now imagine giving the same power to the guys who actually run ISPs. Websites like DP will be lucky if they manage to stay online. No net neutrality in theory could even be used to force acquisitions and takeovers.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

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    By who? Themselves?
    Google "congressional watchdog groups."
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Google "congressional watchdog groups."
    What branch of the government they belong to and what prosecutorial authority do they have?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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