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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you agree that there are more than a couple of other options in any given community?
    Your carrier in this case would be your isp, and therefore no more bound to the principles of net neutrality as comcast or time warner.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It all means nothing, if the profit margin is too low for startups to survive. I mean, let's face it, the current Democrat Party doesn't have the best track record for legislation making things better for the business community.
    If profit margins are too low for startups to survive, the mega-ISP's could lower quality, to increase their profit margin and there's not damn thing anyone could do about it. Or, would you say that that scenario is impossible?
    fyi & fwiw
    You are describing the scenario which encoding net neutrality would prevent.
    That's why NN is important to maintain.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... This made me chuckle a lot. On par with root beer makes you impaired. If anything reduces apdst credibility on the subject, let it be this response.
    Hell, you boys can't even intelligently discuss why a net neutrality bill is so awesome; except to say that you're all right and anyone that dares question you is stupid.

    But, that's just par for the course, ain't it?
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    fyi & fwiw
    You are describing the scenario which encoding net neutrality would prevent.
    That's why NN is important to maintain.
    Show us how it would prevent that, because if the bill forces price controls and lowers profit margins, there's no way to prevent that scenario.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    It makes one question the wisdom of responding to the author of such a comment.
    There's a knowledge gap which the author may not wish to have bridged.
    I agree. I say we stop responding to his statements. It's like debating the merits of evolution with a creationist. Not only are they uneducated on the basics of the topic, they have no technical knowledge of the idea in question.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Here it is:

    https://archive.org/details/Caroline...ctionInterview

    Listen to the interview, where she's all about not being a tax and spend Liberal and supports economic growth, blah, blah.

    Then, 4 months later, she says:
    Just my 2 cents but anytime anyone declares, with a broad brush, that they hate democrats/republicans <fill-in-the-blank> immediately loses all credibility with me. To say I don't like this or that about either is one thing. As I even said, I side with dems on particular stances, all the while abhorring them, while also siding with the republicans on particular issues, even though I have currently lost faith in the party as a whole, is totally different than making across the board declarations like "I hate republicans or I hate democrats, etc."
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Al Franken is no more knowledgeable about Net Neutrality than Ted Cruz is. He is only well versed in the simplistic, stupid explanation of Net Neutrality targeting people who know zero about the actual functionality of the Internet.

    I am getting very tired of the idiotic babbling from the talking heads on this subject.


    Don't listen to them, get your news and info elsewhere.




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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    It looks like the courts have consistently ruled against net neutrality.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Show us how it would prevent that...
    Two scenarios.
    You tell me which is better for a small business.

    ONE
    The small business pays for the bandwidth to provide content to the internet
    Consumers pay for the bandwidth to access whatever content they would like via the internet.

    TWO
    The small business pays for the bandwidth to provide content to the internet.
    Then small business also pays to have that content delivered to an ISP's customers
    Consumers pay for the bandwidth to access only the internet content from businesses who can afford to be double charged for providing internet content.

    Scenario one is what we did have until earlier this year--the good ol internet we've come to know and love.
    Scenario two is what we will have if NN is not codified.

    Should ISPs be able to double charge small businesses?
    Does increasing a small business's overhead help small business grow?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    ... if the bill forces price controls and lowers profit margins, there's no way to prevent that scenario.
    Iirc, a proposed bill was already linked to here. You could take a look at it instead of positing hypotheticals.
    But, if we're going to go with the hypotheticals instead, then allow me to help.

    If the bill promotes puppy-kicking and grandma raping, then...Whoah..won't we all be sorry?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The only Conservatives in Congress, are in The Republican Party. There's no way I could vote for a Democrat, any Democrat and betray my Conservative principals.

    A local radio show, hosted by Moon Griffon, interviewed a Democrat, who was running for office a few years ago--I forget here name--on the basis of, "Hey, folks! Let's give her a fair shot". Well, she sounded like a level headed Conservative on his show, until she got elected and swung left quicker than you can flick flies off of ****. She made some outrageous comment about Conservatives, that would make most Liberal heads spin--I wish I could remember her name, so I could dig that comment up. My point is, Democrats are going to vote Liberal, when they get into office and there's no getting around it. Some Republicans will vote Liberal. But, the only people I can expect to preserve Conservative principles, are in the Republican party, period.
    That's politics, I suppose. I heard Rand Paul on Bill Maher this week and he came across as a liberal friendly conservative. Using much common sense. Reminded me of his father. But put him in front of an audience of teabaggers and I expect his tone and demeanor would change totally.

    Further, anytime I hear a republican talk about smaller government, I put my hand over my wallet and expect a new governmental department to form. Common sense tells me that any professional politician, democrat or republican, endorsing downsizing their own industry sends up a red flag.

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