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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, I would not. In a one party system, there's no way to prosecute corruption. While I trust the Republicans more than the Democrats, I only trust a little more than the Democrats. Politicians are like children: they'll always push the envelope, to see what they can get away with.
    Now, I agree with that 100%. Except, I distrust both parties about the same, myself. In fact, the ONLY reason I MIGHT have any favor for the democrat side is their positioning on social issues and needless war. But, outside that, I absolutely abhor them. I am waiting here on the sidelines for the GOP to get it's house in order and cull out the wingnuts that have cost us so dearly, so I can have my party back.

    But, all that being said, I may just remain an independent regardless. It takes a bit longer to fill out the ballot at the ballot box, but it makes it easier to sleep at night.

    Seriously, last election, my wife was standing by the exit door looking at me impatiently, as I voted for each office individually, instead of voting straight ticket, like, "Well, are you coming or not?" It took me several minutes to make my selections.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Now, I agree with that 100%. Except, I distrust both parties about the same, myself. In fact, the ONLY reason I MIGHT have any favor for the democrat side is their positioning on social issues and needless war. But, outside that, I absolutely abhor them. I am waiting here on the sidelines for the GOP to get it's house in order and cull out the wingnuts that have cost us so dearly, so I can have my party back.

    But, all that being said, I may just remain an independent regardless. It takes a bit longer to fill out the ballot at the ballot box, but it makes it easier to sleep at night.

    Seriously, last election, my wife was standing by the exit door looking at me impatiently, as I voted for each office individually, instead of voting straight ticket, like, "Well, are you coming or not?" It took me several minutes to make my selections.
    The only Conservatives in Congress, are in The Republican Party. There's no way I could vote for a Democrat, any Democrat and betray my Conservative principals.

    A local radio show, hosted by Moon Griffon, interviewed a Democrat, who was running for office a few years ago--I forget here name--on the basis of, "Hey, folks! Let's give her a fair shot". Well, she sounded like a level headed Conservative on his show, until she got elected and swung left quicker than you can flick flies off of ****. She made some outrageous comment about Conservatives, that would make most Liberal heads spin--I wish I could remember her name, so I could dig that comment up. My point is, Democrats are going to vote Liberal, when they get into office and there's no getting around it. Some Republicans will vote Liberal. But, the only people I can expect to preserve Conservative principles, are in the Republican party, period.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have wifi. Must not be all that difficult.
    (chuckle)

    You realize of course that it takes an ISP being installed into your home in order to get wifi - right? Or do you live at a coffee shop and suck wifi of of other people? At work perhaps?
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Where is the lie? You and I have been discussing Obama policies for the last 23 pages and have not been discussing what Cruz said.
    You're lying. Please show where I discussed Obama's policies or retract.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So you didn't like the internet as it was for the last 25 years?
    Whether I do or not is irrelevant. Things change.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Okay, so if this is the end of net neutrality and people's internet use worsens as a result, who will be to blame?
    Obama.
    duh

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    According to this article, the net neutrality legislation will stifle the profit making ability of the ISP's.
    http://m.townhall.com/columnists/rom...tion/page/full
    Are they wrong about that?
    It depends on how you mean it.
    ISPs will make a great deal mor money if they can charge your small business for accessing the internet, for providing the internet access to your small business's content, AND then charge your business again for providing the internet access to your small business's content.

    So in that sense, yes they are right. If ISPs can double charge businesses, the ISP will make more money.


    But if you mean that Time Warner and Cox are not going to be able to turn a profit, then "No, the article is deliriously wrong."
    We've had "neutrality" since the beginning of the internet.
    How're TW and Cox faring so far?
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm not sure what the relationship is between that and the concept of net neutrality. What, exactly, is your point in relation to net neutrality, whether we should have it, or its alleged similarities with Obamacare?
    You should be asking what my post had to do with the context it was in regarding whether or not net neutrality was an Obama scheme.

    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    (chuckle)

    You realize of course that it takes an ISP being installed into your home in order to get wifi - right? Or do you live at a coffee shop and suck wifi of of other people? At work perhaps?
    Not my wifi. I don't know what bass-ackwards part of the world you live in. My internet is through my cell phone provider and it goes everywhere with me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    According to this article, the net neutrality legislation will stifle the profit making ability of the ISP's.

    http://m.townhall.com/columnists/rom...tion/page/full

    Are they wrong about that?
    Anyone can increase profits by charging more for lower quality service. Which is exactly what the net neutrality legislation is supposed to prevent.

    And that's also why quite a few hardcore conservative Republicans support net neutrality: they care much more about their own finances (and rightly so) than those of their local ISP monopoly.
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Anyone can increase profits by charging more for lower quality service. Which is exactly what the net neutrality legislation is supposed to prevent.

    And that's also why quite a few hardcore conservative Republicans support net neutrality: they care much more about their own finances (and rightly so) than those of their local ISP monopoly.
    When the price goes up and the quality goes down, another provider will come in to compete for that business.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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