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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Sen Al Franken (D-Minn.) responded on Sunday to a Washington Post op-ed in which Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) wrote that net neutrality is "Obamacare for the internet".

    Franken said Cruz "doesn't understand" what net neutrality is.

    "He has it completely wrong and he just doesn't understand what this issue is," Franken told Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union".

    Read the article here: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Ted Cruz isn't a stupid guy but he's totally wrong on this issue.

    I believe that we'll hear more from him on this. This is a very important issue to a lot of people.
    Al Franken is no more knowledgeable about Net Neutrality than Ted Cruz is. He is only well versed in the simplistic, stupid explanation of Net Neutrality targeting people who know zero about the actual functionality of the Internet.

    I am getting very tired of the idiotic babbling from the talking heads on this subject.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    No I am not arguing semantics, it is a misnomer, the net is not neutral and has not been neutral.

    Secondly; Why are you not paying attention? I clearly have commented on the concept. I even commented on it in another thread that you participated in, yet here you are acting like you don't know. D'oh!

    In addition, this topic is not about any neutrality but, but Franken's idiocy on display in regards to what Cruz stated.

    This is what Cruz stated and he is absolutely correct.

    In short, net neutrality is Obamacare for the Internet. It would put the government in charge of determining Internet pricing, terms of service and what types of products and services can be delivered, leading to fewer choices, fewer opportunities and higher prices.

    Cruz is clearly indicating that making it an utility is not the way to go.


    What Franken said:
    Franken said Cruz "doesn't understand" what net neutrality is.

    "He has it completely wrong and he just doesn't understand what this issue is," Franken told Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union"

    That is Franken being an idiotic partisan hack and not actually addressing the valid concerns Cruz pointed out.


    D'oh! Again I can reference what was provided in the other thread you participated in.
    (http://www.debatepolitics.com/scienc...post1063981739)




    Even Obama acknowledges that making it a Utility wouldn't be all that was needed.

    Even President Obama conceded that a strict Title II approach would not by itself be sufficient because there are hundreds of rules applying to telephone service common carriers that would be inappropriate to apply to broadband, like, for example, rate regulation.

    In addition, even Title II does not ban paid prioritization completely.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/te...net-rules.html




    That is my point and why neutrality is a misnomer.

    Which still does not make classifying it as a utility a wise, let alone correct option.


    Wrong.
    The net is not neutral. And that isn't what this topic is about either.

    It is about what Cruz said in reference to Obama wanting the FCC to classify it as a utility. Classifying it as an utility is not needed, not just because it would give the Gov more control than it already has, but because doing so would cause how much we pay for it to increase because of the new assessed taxes.

    No. You still don't get it.

    Net neutrality means what I said it means. It does not mean what you said it means. It never meant that. All these other regulations you are talking about? Those are not net neutrality. Net neutrality is not title II regulation. Net neutrality is exactly one thing, and I already told you what that was. Nobody uses the term "net neutrality" the way you are using it. Except you.

    If you use a word in a way nobody else in the world uses it, confusion is your problem, not theirs.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It was stupendously idiotic.



    I'm sorry you can't handle having had your ass handed to you by someone who adds "exactly zero," but maybe you should bow out of this thread before you further embarrass yourself.
    Ha!!! You handed me my ass? Now that's funny. Where did that happen? Lol
    You say nothing. Add nothing. Then claim victory. I guess you did add something to this thread after all -- comedy.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Sen Al Franken (D-Minn.) responded on Sunday to a Washington Post op-ed in which Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) wrote that net neutrality is "Obamacare for the internet".

    Franken said Cruz "doesn't understand" what net neutrality is.

    "He has it completely wrong and he just doesn't understand what this issue is," Franken told Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union".

    Read the article here: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Ted Cruz isn't a stupid guy but he's totally wrong on this issue.

    I believe that we'll hear more from him on this. This is a very important issue to a lot of people.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Not a huge Wiki fan myself, but this piece seems to be balanced ...

    Net neutrality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    For my money, we need to be very careful when we legislate even more Government involvement in more regulation of mass communication.
    And Tim Wu, the daddy of the innocent-sounding "net neutrality", is a hard left academic/politician ... that fact and the list of NN proponents should give pause also.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Knock off the bs. I understand the topic quite well.
    It is others who apparently do not.

    And it is those which do not that ask irrelevant questions.
    Then answer the questions and debate honestly.
    Ted Cruz is the dumbest person alive.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Get wifi.
    You really don't know anything.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong Kobie.
    Nothing he said was idiotic.
    It was spot on.



    Yep. As I thought.
    You literally do not know of what you speak.

    He was addressing two things there.
    1. The internet as a whole.
    2. Obama's desire to have it treated as a utility.

    You are mistakenly conflating the issue, and as such are as wrong about it as the idiot Franken is.




    Cruz did not say that was neutrality, he is saying that is what will happen by making it a utility.
    This is nothing more than Cruz being spot, as compared to you not knowing what you are talking about.
    Your entire attempt at a response is laughably dumb.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Well, considering what Time Warner charges for broadband, kinda, and if they get their way, they'll be ****ing me more.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Get wifi.
    Wow.

    Pop quiz, everyone: how is apdst able to function on the internet? How was he able to connect in the first place? The only answer that makes any conceivable sense is that somebody set all of this up for him.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Wow.

    Pop quiz, everyone: how is apdst able to function on the internet? How was he able to connect in the first place? The only answer that makes any conceivable sense is that somebody set all of this up for him.
    Wifi!
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