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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Still trying to steer the argument away from your initial nonsense? Okay, I'll play, you originally stated you didn't understand why opposition to net neutrality was wrong. I showed you what net neutrality means and why it's nothing like Obamacare. If nothing else, it's the complete opposite of regulation. It is a concept which ensures data and how it is accessed is not subject to regulations by either corporations or government and yet here you are sitting and complaining about utilities. That doesn't make opposition to net neutrality any less wrong.
    Only a liberal could claim that having the FCC regulate internet providers under Title II of the Telecommunications act is the opposite of regulation. Good one.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

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    I'm not the one who went all wobbly and started parroting the "net neutrality is like Obamacare" idiocy the very instant some corrupt politician tweeted it.
    Nor am I. Don't believe everything that Hatuey posts.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    WTF? Do you really think this is about government paying for anybody's internet use? How ****ing ignorant of the discussion do you have to be?
    Did I say that?? No. I didn't. How ****ing incapable are you of reading a post?

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Did I say that?? No. I didn't. How ****ing incapable are you of reading a post?
    So what did you mean when you said this?

    "So like everything else, this boils down to money. Liberals don't want to pay when they can get the state to get it for them for free."

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You don't have to be excited by the idea of continued regulation from the government to ensure net neutrality, but it really is the only way it's going to continue to happen.

    Not liking the idea of government involvement isn't a position, it's just a place where many of your positions just happen to stem from. In the discussion of net neutrality, however, the belief against government involvement doesn't work, especially as in this case that particular involvement has demonstrated itself to be necessary and good.
    Now you see, you are taking the position that government regulation to ensure Net Neutrality is the only way. I'm not convinced of that. There is always another way. I may not know this solution at this moment, but this is my belief. Further, I believe that government involvement in this MAY not be the best possible solution, and we should expend some time and resources to see if there is a better one, as well as if there is a real problem here, beyond the short term 3 month conflict between Netflix and ComCast.

    I'm not going to belittle you for your position. It's your honest opinion and position and you have every right to hold it. The same as mine is.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So what did you mean when you said this?

    "So like everything else, this boils down to money. Liberals don't want to pay when they can get the state to get it for them for free."
    I was responding to the poster who didn't want to see the cost of his site go up, so rather than pay the cost, he prefers the state to step in and force the provider to supply it at cost he wants.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Now you see, you are taking the position that government regulation to ensure Net Neutrality is the only way. I'm not convinced of that. There is always another way. I may not know this solution at this moment, but this is my belief.

    I'm not going to belittle you for your position. It's your honest opinion and position and you have every right to hold it. The same as mine is.
    If neither you nor I can imagine a different way, and if it has worked for 25 years, then there's no point in trying to find a different solution. As you said, if it ain't broke, why fix it?

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It was be less time consumptive for you to show me one post your have backed up.
    All of them. Now challenge me and prove a single one of them is wrong.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    All of them. Now challenge me and prove a single one of them is wrong.
    I knew you couldn't do it. Nice bluff, though.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I was responding to the poster who didn't want to see the cost of his site go up, so rather than pay the cost, he prefers the state to step in and force the provider to supply it at cost he wants.
    Okay, so your statement was meaningless since a)he didn't ask for the state to come in an provide internet service for free, and b)you didn't even mean that either.

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