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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is he wrong?
    It's not "Obamacare for the internet" and isn't dictating pricing, or services offered. And it certainly doesn't lead to "fewer choices" or "fewer opportunities." The opposite, in fact. Net neutrality enhances opportunities, entrepreneurship, and promotes new entries into the market.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is he wrong?


    I'm not going to waste my time explaining it to you, I'll let you educate yourself.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the NCL's support it, it's ****ed up.
    How about the Christian Coalition of America?
    Questions and Answers on Net Neutrality | Christian Coalition of America
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You think we would be better off with a one party system?


    How about a no party system?

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    How about a no party system?
    That's impossible.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Sen Al Franken (D-Minn.) responded on Sunday to a Washington Post op-ed in which Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) wrote that net neutrality is "Obamacare for the internet".

    Franken said Cruz "doesn't understand" what net neutrality is.

    "He has it completely wrong and he just doesn't understand what this issue is," Franken told Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union".

    Read the article here: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Ted Cruz isn't a stupid guy but he's totally wrong on this issue.

    I believe that we'll hear more from him on this. This is a very important issue to a lot of people.
    Franken is an idiot.
    Cruz's word are correct.
    Obama Care is a tax on the citizens just as classifying the internet as a utility would be a tax on the citizens.





    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Right. The internet was just fine with net neutrality, so let's keep it the way it was.
    There is no neutrality at this time.
    The amount of data sent and received, as well as the available bandwidth (speed) to do so, can be charged separately and differently and is a paid for throttle.





    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    it's sad that not ruining the internet by adding slow lanes is even debatable, and that it has been reduced to food for hyperpartisans. sad, but not unexpected. our duopoly sucks so much. national interests seem to take a back seat to partisanship by default.
    Debatable?

    It is the way that Obama wants to accomplish it which is wrong.
    It does not have to be, nor should it be classified as a utility.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's impossible.


    It might be improbable right now, but it's not impossible.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Franken is an idiot.
    Cruz's word are correct.
    Obama Care is a tax on the citizens just as classifying the internet as a utility would be a tax on the citizens.
    Uhh, no it wouldn't. A tax on internet access would be a tax.

    There is no neutrality at this time.
    The amount of data sent and received, as well as the available bandwidth (speed) to do so, can be charged separately and differently and is a paid for throttle.
    I'm aware that net neutrality doesn't currently exist, (it did, until recently) but what you write here seems to imply that you misunderstand net neutrality. Maybe I misunderstand, but what you seem to imply is that net neutrality means everyone has to have the same amount of bandwidth. Net neutrality does not require that ISPs only offer certain speeds or certain prices. That's not what net neutrality is. Let me know if that's not what you meant.


    It is the way that Obama wants to accomplish it which is wrong.
    It does not have to be, nor should it be classified as a utility.
    No, it doesn't have to be that way. Congress could write a law enforcing net neutrality that doesn't require reclassification. That would be a better method.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Uhh, no it wouldn't. A tax on internet access would be a tax.

    Yeah it would be..
    Classifying it as a utility causes it to be taxed, not just by the Fed, but by the State and local Govs as well.
    So sew that bs elsewhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm aware that net neutrality doesn't currently exist, but what you write here seems to imply that you misunderstand net neutrality. Maybe I misunderstand, but what you seem to imply is that net neutrality means everyone has to have the same amount of bandwidth. That's not what net neutrality is. Let me know if that's not what you meant.
    Double d'oh!
    You appear to read more into what has been said then has actually been said.

    I said it isn't neutral now, and exemplified the statement by pointing out various ways that people and businesses are charged.
    That isn't going to change. So there will be no neutrality, that type of throttling will always be allowed.

    By pointing this out I am showing that "Neutrality" is actually a misnomer being used to garner support to enforce something that does not need to be enforced by turning it into a utility.



    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, congress could write a law enforcing net neutrality that doesn't require reclassification. That would be a better method.
    While "neutrality" is actually a misnomer, you are correct that Congress could pass legislation to not allow the specific type of throttling in question.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is he wrong?
    How about you find out what net neutrality means? Then you find out what Ted Cruz said.That way, by informing yourself, you make an educated decision on why comparing net neutrality to Obamacare is downright stupid.
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