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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yep. i'm done wasting my time debating this topic with you.
    It's really sad that some people make this out to be an argument of right v. left. It'd be like saying that ensuring water sources aren't polluted carries a right/left slant. It's nonsensical, partisan hackery at its worst.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    maybe you ought to learn to debate honestly rather than pretending that your opponent argued something that is easier to mount a hyperpartisan attack against.
    I did. You just don't understand your own argument. It comes down to cost. You don't like it because you will have to pay more for what you currently are getting. Rather than open your wallet, you turn to the state to force someone else to provide you with something at a price you want to pay. Just like everything else with liberals, it boils down to money.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is great, but it has little to do with net neutrality. Quality of service isn't what's in question. The content you are able to access with that service is what is being debated. You live in Detroit right? I hear that's a Democratic stronghold. How would you like paying an additional 5$-10$ to access news sites with a right wing slant? Say you moved to an area where Comcast had a monopoly (thanks to local government), would you be alright with paying additional fees to play games, access netflix etc?
    Well, let's just say that I'd round out the picture from which I'm viewing things?

    Anyway, No, I'd not be in favor of a monthly charge for viewing the web sites that I want to view, nor do I believe that anyone should have to, provided the content is legal, i.e. don't think this applies to stuff like kiddie porn and such.

    I agree with your earlier statement that "You don't have to agree on the best way to ensure net neutrality, however, the need for it is unquestionable."
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's really sad that some people make this out to be an argument of right v. left. It'd be like saying that ensuring water sources aren't polluted carries a right/left slant. It's nonsensical, partisan hackery at its worst.
    Except it isn't. Pointing out that wealth obsessed liberals are wealth obsessed liberals isn't hackery, its honesty. But then again, as Mr. Gruber so aptly demonstrated, honesty isn't a virtue amongst the left.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It's really sad that some people make this out to be an argument of right v. left. It'd be like saying that ensuring clean water is available to all, carries a right/left slant. It's nonsensical, partisan hackery at its worst.
    go team, and all. i don't see why anyone would support ruining the internet by adding slow lanes. it would stifle innovation. and to make this argument on a site that would be second or third tier under such a system? it's un****ingbelievable.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You know, I can agree with that.
    To be honest, I don't want to convince people to agree with me when it comes to net neutrality regulations. Hell, I've already stated I'm not sure what the best way to ensure it is. However, if the system can stay the way it has for 25 years, I'm perfectly fine with that. However, we know that's not what is happening. Thanks to the efforts of companies like Comcast, some people are going to see their bills jump, access to certain sites slowed down and websites like DP may even have to pay ransoms for access to them. That's not the kind of internet I want.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    go team, and all. i don't see why anyone would support ruining the internet by adding slow lanes. it would stifle innovation. and to make this argument on a site that would be second or third tier under such a system? it's un****ingbelievable.
    Because I use this site means I should support government force to keep it operating at the current cost structure forever. Right. The opposition is based upon principles of liberty and limited government, not that liberals understand that sort of thing...

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Except it isn't. Pointing out that wealth obsessed liberals are wealth obsessed liberals isn't hackery, its honesty. But then again, as Mr. Gruber so aptly demonstrated, honesty isn't a virtue amongst the left.
    You're getting desperate. Not only did you not know what net neutrality was or is, you absolutely have no clue what the implications of not having it are. The fact that you argued that you'd be okay with letting the free market "handle it", when no such thing currently exists in telecommunications means you've lost all credibility on this issue. Furthermore, that you continue arguing that liberals want to regulate a concept by maintaining the same guidelines is just further evidence of your general ignorance. Now poof, vamoose, you've got no real argument when you degenerate into a rant about evil libruls.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    To be honest, I don't want to convince people to agree with me when it comes to net neutrality regulations. Hell, I've already stated I'm not sure what the best way to ensure it is. However, if the system can stay the way it has for 25 years, I'm perfectly fine with that. However, we know that's not what is happening. Thanks to the efforts of companies like Comcast, some people are going to see their bills jump, access to certain sites slowed down and websites like DP may even have to pay ransoms for access to them. That's not the kind of internet I want.
    Aside from a general objection to government involvement in this sort of thing, the bolded was second on the list. Treating the internet like a utility might very well bring about changes you will live to regret that you have not even considered. There seems to be a rush to accept any change regardless of whether or not it is the right change. Much like Obamacare. Look how that has turned out.

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Oh please, Democrats get manipulated, not intelligent folk.
    And this is you being manipulated here, especially as you can't even argue how the end of net neutrality is in your favor.

    How's that "you can keep your pla-
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