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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Once the government puts it thumb on the scale, neutrality disappears. Net neutrality could turn out to be as accurate as the Affordable Care Act. Sounds great, but inaccurate as hell.
    A pretty ridiculous comparison. Net neutrality, in this context, has very, very specific meaning. If anything else is implemented, it's not net neutrality.

    So it seems you aren't against Net neutrality, but rather are against some other, unspecified, hypothetical regulation.

    This seems like a silly reason to protest net neutrality.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So you don't like the internet as it is?
    Sigh.
    You are about to propose that unless the Net Neutrality regulations are imposed that the Internet will be changed for the worse forever.
    Yes, yes.

    But you see. I'm less than convinced that this is rally the case, and am willing to see what develops in this space over the next period of time. Should the issue that you are concerned about come to be (yes, I know that there's been isolated incidences that have speedily resolved themselves), there is always time later to carefully draft regulations and put them into place.

    The ISPs aren't won't be getting any more political leverage than they already have in the between time so that's not really going to effect the outcome of the regulations one way or another.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    So you cant or wont answer those two specific questions then?
    I didn't answer them because they're not relevant to your question about why opposition to net neutrality is wrong. I explained to you what net neutrality was and laid out the arguments for why it should be maintained. You trying to steer the conversation to be about something other than that doesn't change the fact that opposition to net neutrality is wrong on various counts. The first of which would be restrictions on a consumer's right to access information.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This isn't a conservative-vs-liberal issue. Net neutrality is good for everybody.
    Exactly...the people who aren't for net neutrality are against it because Obama is for it. They won't take the time to research the issue and learn about it.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Sigh.
    You are about to propose that unless the Net Neutrality regulations are imposed that the Internet will be changed for the worse forever.
    Yes, yes.

    But you see. I'm less than convinced that this is rally the case, and am willing to see what develops in this space over the next period of time. Should the issue that you are concerned about come to be (yes, I know that there's been isolated incidences that have speedily resolved themselves), there is always time later to carefully draft regulations and put them into place.

    The ISPs aren't won't be getting any more political leverage than they already have in the between time so that's not really going to effect the outcome of the regulations one way or another.
    Then why don't you share with us why internet service providers not only sued the FCC to end net neutrality but also paid congressmen $762,000 in lobbying efforts against net neutrality? And why don't you share with us why, if the internet "isn't broken and doesn't need to be fixed," (your words, do you recall them?) you're now arguing for the internet to be fixed? And why don't you share with us how the end of net neutrality is good for you?

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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're right, the definition of net neutrality makes it so.



    It's like you're not even sure why you joined the discussion. I argued that Ted Cruz's position of net neutrality being Obamacare for the internet is false. Why? Because net neutrality has nothing to do with overregulation. If anything, it has to do with lack of regulation by both the monopolies in existence AND the government. Now, what the government wants to do in regards to guaranteeing net neutrality has nothing to do with what net neutrality means and why opposition to it is wrong. Do you get that? Good.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's already a law to quell monopolies. Why a new law?
    So you want to enforce net neutrality under antitrust regulation? I'm confused.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This isn't a conservative-vs-liberal issue. Net neutrality is good for everybody.
    What makes it so great? And, BTW, that's what you all told us about Obamacare...jus' sayin'.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you want to enforce net neutrality under antitrust regulation? I'm confused.
    Hatuey said there were monopolies.
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    Re: Al Franken Explains Net Neutrality To Ted Cruz

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What makes it so great? And, BTW, that's what you all told us about Obamacare...jus' sayin'.
    Holy Jesus you were so easy to manipulate.

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