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Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense' [W:406]

grip said:
He didn't say this?
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Oh, I see. And you felt the need to clarify by asking "Do you believe all blacks, in all situations, get favored status over others". What do you think the odds are of a "YES" response?
 
Wiggen said:
I always love how you guys insist on using the President's middle name in your posts about him - as though that makes him even more illegitimate as a President than you already feel he is.
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Always willing to please.

It's also interesting how many leftists don't like his middle name being used. Fitzgerald and Milhous never seemed to be a problem for Kennedy and Nixon supporters but there's a lot of sensitivity about Hussein. It would be worse if his middle name was Adolf. Leftists would really explode whenever it was used!
 
Grant said:
Oh, I see. And you felt the need to clarify by asking "Do you believe all blacks, in all situations, get favored status over others". What do you think the odds are of a "YES" response?
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To say 'blacks' are favored sounds like a generalization. And I have no idea if he would say "YES" or not, that's why I ask the question. ;)
 
Wiggen said:
The man was elected twice - by sizable majorities - as President of the United States. With the gerrymandering the Republicans have done in the House, I wouldn't trust those bastards to tie their own shoes.

The simple fact is that the Republicans have never accepted Barack Obama as a legitimate President. I could speculate as to the reasons for that, but I don't want to get the Far Right loons any more worked up than they already are. Impeaching Barack Obama would show absolute contempt for the American people, and if you think Ferguson showed unrest, just wait for what happens. Bring it on.
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Grant said:
Always willing to please.

It's also interesting how many leftists don't like his middle name being used. Fitzgerald and Milhous never seemed to be a problem for Kennedy and Nixon supporters but there's a lot of sensitivity about Hussein. It would be worse if his middle name was Adolf. Leftists would really explode whenever it was used!
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Gee, I wonder what the difference is between Fitzgerald and Hussein? It's a mystery!:lamo
 
Wiggen said:
Like I said, bring that Impeachment bull**** on.
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Are you claiming impeachment is not a valid procedure? It's set out in the Constitution for very good reasons. Hamilton discusses some of these in Federalist Nos. 65 & 66. It is much more a political process than a legal one, something like a vote of no confidence in a parliamentary system.

Whether it's a good political move to impeach a high official depends, as much as anything, on whether there is anything like the two-thirds majority needed to convict in the Senate. We have had two Presidents and one justice of the Supreme Court impeached. All three have survived their trials, although one more vote in the Senate would have convicted and removed President Andrew Johnson.

If the Liar-in-Chief's star sinks much lower--and it easily could--not enough people will care about his race to save him from impeachment. Your comments about Ferguson, etc. are silly. Blacks are a small minority in this country, and if most Americans have let themselves become so spineless as to be intimidated by the threat that some of them might riot if Obama were impeached, God help us. I'm sure a lot of blacks realize, even if few will admit it, that this man already has hurt the prospects of electing a second black President. If something like you're suggesting ever happened, those prospects would disappear completely.
 
Grant said:
Nah. It'll all be over in just two more years anyway. It's not worth it.
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In my opinion it is. We have two more years of tyranny to endure. If we take no action to stop the monster he will grow in power and the Congress will continue to diminish. This Monster will not be our last president. If we do not stop this monster in his tracks by impeaching him, convicting him and removing him from office the next president will continue on the same trajectory. All governments accumulate the mediocre, the wannabe tyrants, and power.

We need to bring this federal leviathan back under control. It begins with impeachment, defunding the left and rewriting the legislation that has allowed this massive, unconstitutional executive branch to thrive. It is time to starve the beast.

Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. It is time to take a stand against this great evil.
 
matchlight said:
Are you claiming impeachment is not a valid procedure? It's set out in the Constitution for very good reasons. Hamilton discusses some of these in Federalist Nos. 65 & 66. It is much more a political process than a legal one, something like a vote of no confidence in a parliamentary system.

Whether it's a good political move to impeach a high official depends, as much as anything, on whether there is anything like the two-thirds majority needed to convict in the Senate. We have had two Presidents and one justice of the Supreme Court impeached. All three have survived their trials, although one more vote in the Senate would have convicted and removed President Andrew Johnson.

If the Liar-in-Chief's star sinks much lower--and it easily could--not enough people will care about his race to save him from impeachment. Your comments about Ferguson, etc. are silly. Blacks are a small minority in this country, and if most Americans have let themselves become so spineless as to be intimidated by the threat that some of them might riot if Obama were impeached, God help us. I'm sure a lot of blacks realize, even if few will admit it, that this man already has hurt the prospects of electing a second black President. If something like you're suggesting ever happened, those prospects would disappear completely.
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I think it's a great idea for a bunch of right wing white congressmen to attempt to remove the only black elected President from office. You want another civil war? Blacks are a small minority? Well they constitute about 12-13% of the population. Then you have all those pesky Hispanics. And then you have white folks like me, who would find such an action despicable.

Look, I get it. The Far Right - the descendants of the KKK and the John Birch Society - just can't ever accept a black President - especially not a liberal black President. You are flirting with disaster if you attempt this, but then that's never stopped the Far Right from stupidity in the past, has it?
 
Amadeus said:
Show me where the good men are.
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Well, we know where they aren't. The Far Right once more reveals it's contempt for the will of the people.
 
Wiggen said:
Gee, I wonder what the difference is between Fitzgerald and Hussein? It's a mystery!:lamo
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We both live in a multicultural world. Hussein might soon become as popular a boy's name as Mohammed.
 
Grant said:
Nah. It'll all be over in just two more years anyway. It's not worth it.
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Maybe not. But I think you'll find that Andrew Johnson was impeached when there were only a few months left in his term. And he came within one vote of being convicted and removed. One thing that may be at work with Mr. Obama is that a lot of the whites who voted for him are already privately embarrassed, and don't want to admit he's bad enough to be impeached. It would be proof of just how thoroughly they were fooled. And just as electing him allowed a lot of whites to reassure themselves that they felt no racial animosity, supporting his impeachment would make them wonder about it again.

The problem with failing to impeach Mr. Obama is that it establishes that U.S. Presidents from here on can not only reverse federal laws whenever they want, but also reward the people who broke those laws. And if a President can do this with acts of Congress, he can surely do it with decisions of the Supreme Court. The Constitution can't survive many attacks that go right to its heart, like this one does. Of course statists like Obama don't much like the Constitution or the form of government it designs, anyway. Neither do millions of his acolytes, although they're not honest enough to admit it.
 
Misterveritis said:
In my opinion it is. We have two more years of tyranny to endure. If we take no action to stop the monster he will grow in power and the Congress will continue to diminish. This Monster will not be our last president. If we do not stop this monster in his tracks by impeaching him, convicting him and removing him from office the next president will continue on the same trajectory. All governments accumulate the mediocre, the wannabe tyrants, and power.

We need to bring this federal leviathan back under control. It begins with impeachment, defunding the left and rewriting the legislation that has allowed this massive, unconstitutional executive branch to thrive. It is time to starve the beast.Evil triumphs when good men do nothing. It is time to take a stand against this great evil.
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He is a lame duck and he should just stay that way. He derves to be impeached but it wouldnt do the country any good. The Stupids would just create a distracting huge fuss when they could be doing something more worthwhile.
 
Grant said:
He is a lame duck and he should just stay that way. He derves to be impeached but it wouldnt do the country any good. The Stupids would just create a distracting huge fuss when they could be doing something more worthwhile.
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Obama's impeachment might yet save the country. Allowing him to continue dooms us. There is nothing more worthwhile that impeaching, convicting, and removing a lawless president.
 
Wiggen said:
I think it's a great idea for a bunch of right wing white congressmen to attempt to remove the only black elected President from office. You want another civil war? Blacks are a small minority? Well they constitute about 12-13% of the population. Then you have all those pesky Hispanics. And then you have white folks like me, who would find such an action despicable.

Look, I get it. The Far Right - the descendants of the KKK and the John Birch Society - just can't ever accept a black President - especially not a liberal black President. You are flirting with disaster if you attempt this, but then that's never stopped the Far Right from stupidity in the past, has it?
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Racism is clearly alive and well. Lawlessness is also alive and well. You provide us with a wonderful example of a twofer.
 
Misterveritis said:
Given your question it is unlikely that you know any or are one yourself.
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Says the guy who wanted to execute the president for non-capital crimes (or even crimes) before he had committed them.
 
Amadeus said:
Says the guy who wanted to execute the president for non-capital crimes (or even crimes) before he had committed them.
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I attribute this to either your poor reading skills, an inability to follow an evolving thread or my poor communications skills. It was pbrauer who asked "why not lynch" Obama, not me. It was the usual hatemongers on the left who wanted a lynching and not a lawful progression from a House impeachment to a Senate conviction and removal from office. Then, and only then should the Lawless One be arrested for treason, for waging war openly and brazenly against the American citizens, then tried, convicted and, if possible, executed. Treason is a federal capital offense.

I believe he should have been impeached prior to this last tyrannical act. The House lacked the courage to do what is right.
 
Misterveritis said:
Obama's impeachment might yet save the country. Allowing him to continue dooms us. There is nothing more worthwhile that impeaching, convicting, and removing a lawless president.
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And the usual suspects would accuse the Republicans of racism, etc, and just add more poison the next Presidential elections. Obama is on a leash for the next two years and can do little harm.

Of course he should be impeached, I certainly agree with that, but I don't think its wise.
 
Grant said:
And the usual suspects would accuse the Republicans of racism, etc, and just add more poison the next Presidential elections. Obama is on a leash for the next two years and can do little harm.

Of course he should be impeached, I certainly agree with that, but I don't think its wise.
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I believe you mean that impeachment is not expedient. There are times when doing the right thing is not easy.

Who cares if America-haters call us racists? Obama is on no leash. He just committed a coup. And he is getting away with it.
 
Misterveritis said:
I believe you mean that impeachment is not expedient. There are times when doing the right thing is not easy.

Who cares if America-haters call us racists? Obama is on no leash. He just committed a coup. And he is getting away with it.
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I tend to disagree but we'll see.
 
Grant said:
I tend to disagree but we'll see.
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I did not understand this. Do you believe that the Establishment Republicans will effectively counter the Father of Lies? What have they done that gives any indication they will do so?
 
Misterveritis said:
I did not understand this. Do you believe that the Establishment Republicans will effectively counter the Father of Lies? What have they done that gives any indication they will do so?
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I think they will fight him on every level, with the exception of impeachment. He is being sued now and the courts will be deciding on both immigration and Obamacare, and we still have Benghazi, the ballsup in Iraq, Fast and Furious, as well as a couple of other scandals.

Impeachment proceedings would only detract from the other issues, and the bumbler might actually gain some public sympathy.
 
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