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Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense' [W:406]

Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

So you won't answer my question, but want me to answer yours... lol... typical.

OK then... A pardon isn't amnesty. A pardon means you are forgiven for a crime you committed, but it does not grant the person the right to continue to commit the crime with impunity. He could pardon them for breaking our law, but not sending them back is a whole sale rewriting of federal law....

So as I said, just think about the precedent Obama will be setting (using executive orders to decree new immigration law) and ask yourself if you will feel comfortable with a Republican president being able to do the very same thing with the laws and issues that are of great importance to you? If you can honestly say that you would be comfortable with that, then go after me with both guns... But if you can't, then it's about time that you, and every single liberal who feels the same way, to use your voices to stop this from happening.

You are too late. Presidents already have done things I didn't like without even consulting Congress.. Bush redefined torture and violated the Geneva convention. If he can do that Obama can certainly stop a few deportations.
 
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Yes. I hope so. I want the president punished. Prison would be barely acceptable.

Gold Kugerrands will fall out of your ass before President Obama will be imprisoned. Even the most wacky right-wing nuts I know aren't this crazy or vengeful.
 
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You are too late. Presidents already have done things I didn't like without even consulting Congress.. Bush redefined torture and violated the Geneva convention. If he can do that Obama can certainly stop a few deportations.

This House had its chance to act on immigration before July 31st. They chose to punt until after the election, playing crass politics to win an election. We still hear ZERO on what the House will do, besides shut down the gov't and ruin another Christmas economic season .
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

So you won't answer my question, but want me to answer yours... lol... typical.

OK then... A pardon isn't amnesty. A pardon means you are forgiven for a crime you committed, but it does not grant the person the right to continue to commit the crime with impunity. He could pardon them for breaking our law, but not sending them back is a whole sale rewriting of federal law....

So as I said, just think about the precedent Obama will be setting (using executive orders to decree new immigration law) and ask yourself if you will feel comfortable with a Republican president being able to do the very same thing with the laws and issues that are of great importance to you? If you can honestly say that you would be comfortable with that, then go after me with both guns... But if you can't, then it's about time that you, and every single liberal who feels the same way, to use your voices to stop this from happening.

I've actually said before that I'm not comfortable with any President circumventing the law. Unlike you, that is regardless of party. I don't support this action by Obama. I also would not support impeachment, nor did I support impeaching Bush.

As we all know, if a Republican did this, you'd be leading the cheers. Yet you come here and accuse me of being hyperpartisan. That's rich, but unfortunately what we expect of you.
 
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I've actually said before that I'm not comfortable with any President circumventing the law. Unlike you, that is regardless of party. I don't support this action by Obama. I also would not support impeachment, nor did I support impeaching Bush.

It's nice to hear that you disagree with it, but what gave you the idea that my disagreement was predicated on the party attempting to do it?

As we all know, if a Republican did this, you'd be leading the cheers. Yet you come here and accuse me of being hyperpartisan. That's rich, but unfortunately what we expect of you.

Again, what is the basis for such an opinion? I don't recall ever giving my blessing for any politician to circumvent the law at their discretion.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

I've actually said before that I'm not comfortable with any President circumventing the law. Unlike you, that is regardless of party. I don't support this action by Obama. I also would not support impeachment, nor did I support impeaching Bush.

As we all know, if a Republican did this, you'd be leading the cheers. Yet you come here and accuse me of being hyperpartisan. That's rich, but unfortunately what we expect of you.
You're wrong, he would not support a Republican president doing what President Obama will do.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

Watch his comments to Megyn Kelly:







Will Congress try to impeach a President for using executive power to make sweeping immigration law changes, and is it warranted?


I think we should get to the bottom of who is the "SOMESAY"that is the source that Megyn Kelly/fox quotes so often.:thumbs:
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

Correct, the decision to invade Iraq was a very poor one. Almost 5000 dead troops, tens of thousands with life altering injuries, suicides and the money taken from the treasury. And of course the financial meltdown that occurred under his watch.

What I find odd when liberals critique President Bush and drag all of this crap up, have you ever considered that some of President Bush's biggest supporters are the military, those who served in the wars, suffered those injuries, and their families, especially the families of those who were killed or injured?
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

I don't remember any, but that doesn't mean they didn't exist. I hate the idea of impeachment. Let the president do his thing, the people will either approve of it, disapprove of it or be indifferent. I actually think Obama would welcome it. If he looked back at Clinton's impeachment, he would see at the beginning Bill was at 57% approval, not an ideal time to begin impeachment proceedings as the people were not with the Republicans. When it was over and done, Clinton had a 65% approval rating. I don't have party favorability ratings from back then, but I bet the Republicans approval ratings drop quite a bit.

But Obama is not Clinton and his approval ratings are 17 points below Bill's. But still, one has to wonder if the Republicans ever learn anything from history. If the people think he over reached this authority they will let him know. Right now there is a lot of people dissatisfied with him, but dissatisfaction does not warrant impeachment.

Obama has none of Clinton's charisma.
 
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President Obama didn't convince the public we needed to invade Iraq, Bush did that.

That's funny! sHrillary and sKerry did a lot of good work on that. Gotta give them props!
 
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Don't deflate Krauthammer's big erection. At his age he doesn't get them very often.

You must have missed the part about him being confined to a wheelchair.

Shameful.
 
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We know you would be.

Lets see you answer this question: Did you know that the Constitution gives Obama the power to grant pardons to every illegal immigrant? What would be unconstitutional about him doing so?

Nothing, except you would have to identify them first.
 
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That's funny! sHrillary and skerry did a lot of good work on that. Gotta give them props!

Darth Cheney was in charge of propaganda, and very few dared to oppose him and live. Those were dark times for the Force.
 
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What I find odd when liberals critique President Bush and drag all of this crap up, have you ever considered that some of President Bush's biggest supporters are the military, those who served in the wars, suffered those injuries, and their families, especially the families of those who were killed or injured?

How is that remotely relevant?
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

Darth Cheney was in charge of propaganda, and very few dared to oppose him and live. Those were dark times for the Force.

Propaganda? You really want to go there? Have you been asleep for the last month and have not heard that Saddam's WMDs were found by the Marines and kept under wraps? the only thing that brought that to the surface was the fact that ISIS could get their hands on them.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

That's funny! sHrillary and sKerry did a lot of good work on that. Gotta give them props!

If you are an adult why don't you write like one? Did they teach that crap at Auburn?
 
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Propaganda? You really want to go there? Have you been asleep for the last month and have not heard that Saddam's WMDs were found by the Marines and kept under wraps? the only thing that brought that to the surface was the fact that ISIS could get their hands on them.
They were there since before Desert Storm.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

Propaganda? You really want to go there? Have you been asleep for the last month and have not heard that Saddam's WMDs were found by the Marines and kept under wraps? the only thing that brought that to the surface was the fact that ISIS could get their hands on them.

LOL Even Bush admitted there were no WMD's and joked about in this clip. Bush never missed an opportunity for humor, that was probably his best quality. It takes a special President to find humor in the needless deaths of 1000s' of American servicemen.

 
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Oh look, impeach ___________ (fill in POTUS name) talk...must be Saturday.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

Obama has none of Clinton's charisma.

I am not sure what you mean by that. It is true Obama lacks Clinton's charisma and the ability to connect with the people that Clinton could do. But by lacking those qualities, does that mean it is okay to go ahead and impeach Obama? I do not think the American public is ready for impeachment hearings or more important, want them. One may be dissatisfied with the job the president is doing, but that doesn't mean you want him run out of town on a rail either.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

You must have missed the part about him being confined to a wheelchair.

Shameful.

Why does it matter if he's confined to a wheelchair? I fail to see the significance.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

Nothing, except you would have to identify them first.

It would be possible to do a mass pardon like Carter did with Vietnam dodgers.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

It would be possible to do a mass pardon like Carter did with Vietnam dodgers.

A pardon wouldn't make them citizens. Even after he pardons them, they would be breaking the law the very next day, because they're in the country illegally.
 
Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

Dispute the evidence, not the source.

What's so odd is...you automatically assume the creators of this list has presented factual evidence because it came from just ONE MORE CRUSADING conservative group who wants to de-nut Obama.

Listen, I'm not an Obama lover. I've said such frequent times in various forums. I'll be glad when his presidency ends. But there are also lists by opponent groups for every sitting president who whine and make outlandish claims and would swear on their children's lives that their claims are true...only later to find out it's just more political bull****.

Did you personally take each individual item and confirm the validity of each? My bet is NO!

The new way of establishment of the truth -- or let's say demonstrating that evidence has probative weight is via being an obedient sycophant.
 
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