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Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense' [W:406]

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You are right I certainly can't refute fascist wing nut delusions.

Took a while, but Godwin was finally employed. :lamo
 
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It's hilarious to hear neo-communist liberals bitch about hackery! :lamo
It's not half as hilarious as you making the claim. LMAO
 
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Took a while, but Godwin was finally employed. :lamo

Communist is okay but fascist is not. Are these rules posted or do they exist only in your mind?
 
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It's hilarious to hear neo-communist liberals bitch about hackery! :lamo

'Neo-communist liberals' won't catch on, no matter how many times you say it. It just makes it look like your partisan dials are turned all the way up to 11. In other words, stop punching yourself.
 
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It's not half as hilarious as you making the claim. LMAO

How's it feel to support the biggest lie in decades? You supported fraud against The American People. You even lied for them.
 
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Communist is okay but fascist is not. Are these rules posted or do they exist only in your mind?

Neither are ok. Too bad both weren't exterminated during WW2.

But, it's rather telling that you would think the commies are okay.
 
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How's it feel to support the biggest lie in decades? You supported fraud against The American People. You even lied for them.

I didn't vote for Bush. I bet you did.
 
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'Neo-communist liberals' won't catch on, no matter how many times you say it. It just makes it look like your partisan dials are turned all the way up to 11. In other words, stop punching yourself.

It's already caught on, pard. :lamo
 
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You are fixated at media, everything is the media with you. If the Republicans impeached him, his approval would likely soar as President Clinton's did. If they successfully impeached they could never get the 67 votes in the Senate to remove him from office.

I don't know about his approval soaring, Clinton was at 57% approval be fore impeachment and at 65% at the end of the trial. Obama is no Clinton and he is at 41% now, a long way from 57%. The American people were not on the side of the Republicans back in late 1998 early 1999 and the Republicans came off looking like idiots.

Obama doesn't connect with the people the way Clinton did. But only three presidents last century had that quality to have the people believe you and connect with them as they did. FDR, Reagan and Clinton. When Bill said, "I feel your pain," we believed him. The fact Obama doesn't have that ability like those three is no fault of his own.

But what the Republicans fail to grasp is that if they are going to impeach a president and if it is to have a chance of working, you must have the people behind you. Not just a portion of your party, but the a huge majority of the people. The people may be dissatisfied big time with the president, his disapproval is at 54%, but disapproval and dissatisfaction are not grounds for impeachment. The president must do something horrendously wrong which he has not done. Then the people as a whole has to recognize and acknowledge it. If not they will not stand for impeachment which is overthrowing a valid election.

My advice, get away from the I word and learn something from history and that black eye the GOP carried around after their attempt to impeach Clinton.
 
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Neither are ok. Too bad both weren't exterminated during WW2.

But, it's rather telling that you would think the commies are okay.

Do you read your own posts? You seem to think its okay to call people communists but somehow not okay to refer to people as fascists. I never said "communists were okay". You are just deliberately taking something out of context so basically lying. I am not surprised.
 
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Do you read your own posts? You seem to think its okay to call people communists but somehow not okay to refer to people as fascists. I never said "communists were okay". You are just deliberately taking something out of context so basically lying. I am not surprised.

It's OK when he does it.
 
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It's OK when he does it.

And, you people can't help but make it personal. I'll say it again, it's all y'all have.
 
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Cackling maniacally doesn't help your cause.

Playing along with politicos that think you're stupid definitely doesn't help your's, sir.
 
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And, you people can't help but make it personal. I'll say it again, it's all y'all have.

YOU are the one calling people communists. I guess that doesn't count as personal in your world.
 
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Playing along with politicos that think you're stupid definitely doesn't help your's, sir.

Where are you aiming? That one didn't even hit the dart board.
 
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How's it feel to support the biggest lie in decades? You supported fraud against The American People. You even lied for them.
President Obama didn't convince the public we needed to invade Iraq, Bush did that.
 
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President Obama didn't convince the public we needed to invade Iraq, Bush did that.

He didn't lie, neither.

It was Obama that Hans Gruber was talking to when he decided that the American people are stupid.

Personally, I think he was referring to the neo-communist liberals more than anyone else. :lamo
 
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And he wasn't convicted. And his impeachment, just like Bill Clinton's, was a partisan political circus that had nothing to do with good governance

I don't see how Andrew Johnson's impeachment was in any way harmful to good governance. He was a very poor President who'd been added to the ticket in 1864 mainly to lend it geographic balance, historically an important consideration in selecting running mates. Johnson was from Tennessee, yet favored the Union. That made him useful in 1864 as a symbol of national unity. But after the war, his Southern sympathies were at odds with powerful sentiments that held sway in the North.

Many people may not have cared much more about protecting blacks than Johnson did. But so many Union men had been killed or wounded that almost everyone, in every town, had been close to one of them. And they damn sure did care about making sure those several hundred thousand boys had not shed a river of blood for nothing. Even after most people had stopped suspecting Johnson of having been behind Lincoln's assassination, they weren't all that sorry to be shed of him.

the constitution, separation of powers, or any other facet of law.

Really? You seem to know all about constitutional law. Why don't you explain to us just how Johnson's impeachment was not perfectly legitimate under the Constitution? And while you're at it, please tell us just how the separation of powers was violated. The Constitution specifically gives the legislative branch authority to impeach and try officials in the executive and judicial branches. Impeachments are the business of the House, and trials of impeached officials are the business of the Senate. The House impeached Johnson, and the Senate tried him.

If you were really as concerned about the law as you claim, you would not be rushing to guard the rear of a damned un-American liar like Barack Obama, who has repeatedly shown he has nothing but contempt for the rule of law and the Constitution of the U.S. If enough Americans no longer want him as President, that's enough. They don't need to justify their displeasure with him to anyone--including whatever supporters he still has. He has abused his power and violated the Constitution so many times, and so gravely, that even a small fraction of those offenses would be more than is needed under the Constitution to impeach him.
 
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Really? You seem to know all about constitutional law. Why don't you explain to us just how Johnson's impeachment was not perfectly legitimate under the Constitution? And while you're at it, please tell us just how the separation of powers was violated. The Constitution specifically gives the legislative branch authority to impeach and try officials in the executive and judicial branches. Impeachments are the business of the House, and trials of impeached officials are the business of the Senate. The House impeached Johnson, and the Senate tried him.

Your reading comprehension is unimpressive. The act of impeaching a president is within the constitution. The grounds for which they attempted to impeach him were, like the grounds for Clinton's impeachment hearing, complete nonsense that had nothing to do with a better government or the rule of law. It was just partisan nonsense. As would a similar attempt on Obama.

If you were really as concerned about the law as you claim, you would not be rushing to guard the rear of a damned un-American liar like Barack Obama, who has repeatedly shown he has nothing but contempt for the rule of law and the Constitution of the U.S. If enough Americans no longer want him as President, that's enough. They don't need to justify their displeasure with him to anyone--including whatever supporters he still has. He has abused his power and violated the Constitution so many times, and so gravely, that even a small fraction of those offenses would be more than is needed under the Constitution to impeach him.

See, that you think the bolded demonstrates that you really have no idea what's going on. He hasn't violated the law or the constitution. Conservatives like to keep telling each other this, and that there's something fundamentally wrong with this president, but it's just a lot of hackery. He's a regular politician, just like any other. The only contempt is the pathological hatred that the right has for him. But your contempt for him doesn't make him a criminal, no matter how badly you want him to be one. Get out of your bubble and face reality.
 
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What has this GOP House done with immigration reform since coming to power in 2011? Exactly zero. Boehner hasn't been able to get 218 votes out of his own caucus on anything important since losing the grand bargain in 2011, no matter who you blame. And try answering my post next time instead of your diversions or don't bother .


What has BO and the Demos done since 2008 when BO had full control of Congress, and after BO made promises.

Boehner now has more seats.

Oh and I did answer your OP that started with the false premise that none knew what the House is going to do. That was corrected to what was....Right.
 
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The act of impeaching a president is within the constitution. The grounds for which they attempted to impeach him were, like the grounds for Clinton's impeachment hearing, complete nonsense that had nothing to do with a better government or the rule of law. It was just partisan nonsense. As would a similar attempt on Obama.

By severely crippling B.J. Clinton's ability to damage the country any further, his impeachment automatically contributed to better government.

No doubt my reading comprehension is nothing like yours--but let me try very hard to comprehend this. The Constitution, which is our highest law, authorizes the House to impeach a President. And yet both times the House has done that, according to you, it "had nothing to do with . . . the rule of law." If that makes sense to you, I'm not the least surprised.

See, that you think the bolded demonstrates that you really have no idea what's going on.

Really? OK, if you say so. I'm happy to leave it to the people who have read my posts about legal and constitutional matters, and read yours, to decide which of us really has no idea what's going on.

He hasn't violated the law or the constitution.

Rot. Of course he has--flagrantly and repeatedly. Andy McCarthy, a very accomplished former federal prosecutor, wrote a book some months ago in which he catalogued a great many gross violations by your President, in several categories, even a fraction of which would be plenty to make out a bill of impeachment. This damned statist liar has nothing but contempt for the Constitution, and for the duty to see that laws are faithfully executed that it imposes on him. As a dedicated member of President Pinocchio's rear guard, though, you are committed to ignoring his many gross violations.

Conservatives like to keep telling each other this, and that there's something fundamentally wrong with this president, but it's just a lot of hackery.

The only hackery I see here is your own. You know President Pinocchio's incompetence, habitual dishonesty, contempt for the law, and limp-wristed foreign policy have finally caught up with him and you are trying to hide it by pretending everything is fine. But I know the sound of whistling past the graveyard when I hear it.

He's a regular politician, just like any other.

I do not agree. But if he were, it would just mean their sorry carcases should be thrown out of office too.

The only contempt is the pathological hatred that the right has for him.

I don't know what "the right" is, but it's nothing to do with me. I don't hate Mr. Obama any more than I hate any other un-American collectivist liar.

But your contempt for him doesn't make him a criminal, no matter how badly you want him to be one.

I never even suggested that Mr. Obama has committed any crimes, or that he should be prosecuted. One more time: Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding. Neither this President nor any other high official needs to have violated any criminal law for the House to impeach him.

Get out of your bubble and face reality.

That's exactly what you and your fellow members of this damned liar's rear guard have been forced to do in recent weeks. Your messiah's halo is tarnished, and his star is sinking fast--and you are more and more desperate to deny that fact
 
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