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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "Really? Do you have a list? How did Reagan lie to give us Obamacare? When did Reagan provide guns to Mexican drug cartels to discredit American gun ownership and to soften us up for gun confiscation? When did Reagan lie about how his ambassador and three other Americans were murdered while he prepared for a fund raiser?"

    You made the claim that Reagan and Bush did exactly the same thing (committed the same crimes) as Obama has and continues to do.

    If you cannot make the case, tell the truth, then not posting is the better option.
    Oh please: I'm talking about immigration. The rest of your post is just silly nonsense.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Point out Bush's lies. Let's examine them. Did Bush ever try to fundamentally transform the nation or implement one party rule through encouraging an invasion and then declaring an amnesty on the invaders?
    False pretenses | Center for Public Integrity

    President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.
    On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And amnesty will lead to a one-party system in the US.

    I respond to posts. Just as you have. If you like this lying regime then you will love amnesty.
    It's pretty neat racist to assume that an entire ethnic group will vote for one party in perpetuity.

    At least, that's the claim made when Dems do that with black voters. I guess it's different if you're on the right. Like everything else, it's only bad when the left does it.


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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    My Sicilian forebears came through Ellis Island in the early part of the last century.
    This means they were legal immigrants and not illegal aliens. I do not believe you can discern the difference.

    They were dirt poor farmers.
    How much welfare did they get?

    They weren't illiterate, they could speak Italian, but their reading skills were non existent.
    Illiterate means they were unable to read. One hundred years ago when muscle was more important than brains that might not have made a difference. In my opinion it does today.

    Even to the day they died both my grandmothers were far more comfortable with Italian than English and that's what we largely spoke around them.
    I am not surprised. My wife is a legal immigrant. When we first met she spoke American English reasonably well. She also spoke French and Spanish in addition to her native German. Today she speaks American English better than many native speakers. But not everyone needs to. One hundred years ago when someone emigrated to the US it was with the intention of becoming a US citizen and not to change this nation into something resembling the country they left.

    Both of my grandfathers gained US citizenship by serving in the US Army during WWI.
    Cool. They were committed.

    All that's to say I don't see a whole hell of a lot of difference between the poor coming here today and my family and those who came from Europe with them.
    Your grandparents came here legally.
    Your grandparents came here with the intention of becoming Americans.
    Your grandparents were not sponges.
    Your grandparents did not bring diseases with them.
    Your grandparents did not plan to change the country into a facsimile of a corrupt Sicily.
    Your grandparents were not brought here by a political party to tip the balance for a hundred years toward one party rule.

    As to stealing from you there is ample evidence that illegals on balance cost you nothing.
    Although it is not your lie it is a lie. On balance they raise my property taxes. On balance we are providing them with food, clothing and shelter in addition to an education and health care. They are already costing me. On balance.

    Jobs? If Americans wanted those jobs illegals wouldn't have them.
    This is another lie. We have made indolence so rewarding that the welfare recipients won't bother going to work. We can repair our extravagant welfare system and have people return to work.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's pretty neat racist to assume that an entire ethnic group will vote for one party in perpetuity.

    At least, that's the claim made when Dems do that with black voters. I guess it's different if you're on the right. Like everything else, it's only bad when the left does it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    You go too far. Beyond. And that's oxymoronic as well.
    Here is the whole quote, ""Lynch? No. But an execution of the lawbreaker sounds great."
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Ho come on, now. The idea of a lynching sounds really good to you, doesn't it?
    "I want him dead. I want the rule of law to be restored. Lynching is more a Democratic party thing. The KKK was the enforcement arm of the democratic party. Intimidation and murder is something those you support do."

    What do you object to? With great power comes great responsibilities. Obama has intentionally damaged the nation and may very well commit and unpardonable, treasonous act, against American citizens in the next few weeks. His acts, when taken against the American citizens, the American nation, and the American Constitution, deserve the greatest possible punishment.

    Impeach him either way. Convict him and remove him from office. Then arrest him for treason and other crimes. Try him. Convict him. And sentence him. What could you possibly object to?

    Are you sure you understand oxymoron?

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's pretty neat racist to assume that an entire ethnic group will vote for one party in perpetuity.
    Maybe. That is the calculation the Democrats are making. I agree with their assessment. Most of the illegals come from places with governments that are as corrupt as our has become. Of course they will vote for democrats. Democrats are the party of big government corruption. And that will mark the end of a two party system for a hundred years.

    At least, that's the claim made when Dems do that with black voters. I guess it's different if you're on the right. Like everything else, it's only bad when the left does it.
    It has been true for 50 years with black voters. That has been damaging as well.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Do you believe a statement that may turn out to be untrue is the same as an intentional lie?

    I was an intelligence officer for most of my 20 year career. I was not right all of the time. When I made an assessment that turned out to be wrong do you believe I was lying? When those who trusted my assessments repeated them do you believe they were lying?

    Gruber and the democratic party leadership up to and including Obama lied. They knew they were lying. They lied as policy. they lied because they are tyrants. You are not able to see the difference, can you?

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Really? Do you have a list? How did Reagan lie to give us Obamacare? When did Reagan provide guns to Mexican drug cartels to discredit American gun ownership and to soften us up for gun confiscation? When did Reagan lie about how his ambassador and three other Americans were murdered while he prepared for a fund raiser?
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Oh please: I'm talking about immigration. The rest of your post is just silly nonsense.
    That is not what you wrote. You said that Reagan and Bush did the same thing. Did Bush give amnesty to illegal aliens?
    Did he have an agreement with the Democrats to secure the border?

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