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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Which impeachment would not do.

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    Very true. I always hate it when people start talking about impeachment. Usually there is no basis for it. I see none here, but I would add the word yet to give me an out. For a successful impeachment to work one should look back to 1973 and 74. The Democrats never brought impeachment up for over a year in the Watergate hearings. They waited and waited, finally once public support came close to 50% for impeachment did the proceeding begin in the House committee which had some Republican support. 7 of the 17 Republican representatives supported at least one of the three articles of impeachment. Nixon resigned then. But if impeachment is to be successful, looking back to 1973 and 74 is the way to do it, not how it was done in 1998 and 99.

    In the House committee during Bill Clinton's impeachment proceedings the votes were 21-16 along straight party lines. In the Full house vote the vote again was pretty much down party lines with 5 or 6 members of each voting the other way. In the senate it was once again a straight party line vote 45-55. A waste of time and energy, Clinton emerged much more popular with the people than when all of this began by as 57% approval rating before 65% after.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Isn't there one person on the left who will address the question I asked?

    Here it is again:

    ... just think about the precedent Obama will be setting (using executive orders to decree new immigration law) and ask yourself if you will feel comfortable with a Republican president being able to do the very same thing with the laws and issues that are of great importance to you? If you can honestly say that you would be comfortable with that, then go after me with both guns... But if you can't, then it's about time that you, and every single liberal who feels the same way, to use your voices to stop this from happening.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I believe what you said in your reply to me is true. Ford was much weaker than even a wounded Nixon and was run over by the Democratic controlled congress back then. Yes, it all depends on what the president does. Before anyone starts using the I word, they better be sure the public is behind them. It sure isn't now.

    I will say this, after looking at the exist polls, so much of the anger, resentment at the Democrats was because of the economy. Getting into a fight on immigration reform instead of seeing what can be done to improve the economy is something that could hurt the new Republican majority before they are even seated and begin the new session.

    Let Obama do what Obama is going to do, then sit back and gauge the public's response. According to the exit polls, the public wants action on the economy over immigration by at least a 5-1 margin, 54% vs. 11%. Let the president and the Democrats put immigration first, that is not what the election results last week meant.

    If I were Mitch McConnell once Obama acts, I would say to the American people, "Now you know where the Democrats priority are, ours is to get the economy moving again.
    It's ironic that people think the gov't has that much control over the economy. I guess if you throw in social programs, worker status, subsidies, gov't contracts, taxes, bailouts, FED rates, etc they have some marginal control, but not over the whole thing. Technology, energy, food, housing, retail sales, cars, traveling, investment, credit, wages, employment and trade are the real components of the financial sector.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's ironic that people think the gov't has that much control over the economy. I guess if you throw in social programs, worker status, subsidies, gov't contracts, taxes, bailouts, FED rates, etc they have some marginal control, but not over the whole thing. Technology, energy, food, housing, retail sales, cars, traveling, investment, credit, wages, employment and trade are the real components of the financial sector.
    LOL, yeah I always found that strange myself. Government has about as much control over the economy as it does the weather. I think where this comes from is presidents take credit for a good economy and tout the economy in numerous speeches always stating that it is they who made the good economy, thus vote for me or whatever.

    So if the people becomes convinced or think the president has control over the economy, they will naturally blame them and government when it turns sour. Look back on 2008, that election Obama was always stating, elect me and my Democrat cohorts and we will fix the bad economy. Then you get programs like the stimulus which once again was promised to fixed every ill of the economy. I do not think it is so surprising. Wrong and misplaced perhaps, but something brought on by our elected officials in their never ending search for votes.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Why not lynch him,?
    I think that's probably not a viable possibility to most right wing loons. To others, however, I'm sure it sounds like a great idea!
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Could Obama possibly be lucky enough to have the right wing nutjobs start the Impeachment process?

    God, I hope so.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    We know you would be.

    Lets see you answer this question: Did you know that the Constitution gives Obama the power to grant pardons to every illegal immigrant? What would be unconstitutional about him doing so?
    So you won't answer my question, but want me to answer yours... lol... typical.

    OK then... A pardon isn't amnesty. A pardon means you are forgiven for a crime you committed, but it does not grant the person the right to continue to commit the crime with impunity. He could pardon them for breaking our law, but not sending them back is a whole sale rewriting of federal law....

    So as I said, just think about the precedent Obama will be setting (using executive orders to decree new immigration law) and ask yourself if you will feel comfortable with a Republican president being able to do the very same thing with the laws and issues that are of great importance to you? If you can honestly say that you would be comfortable with that, then go after me with both guns... But if you can't, then it's about time that you, and every single liberal who feels the same way, to use your voices to stop this from happening.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    What does Fox News say?
    Beats me... but nice dodge anyway.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Isn't there one person on the left who will address the question I asked?

    Here it is again:

    ... just think about the precedent Obama will be setting (using executive orders to decree new immigration law) and ask yourself if you will feel comfortable with a Republican president being able to do the very same thing with the laws and issues that are of great importance to you? If you can honestly say that you would be comfortable with that, then go after me with both guns... But if you can't, then it's about time that you, and every single liberal who feels the same way, to use your voices to stop this from happening.
    If I believe in a policy, it doesn't matter whether its a Republican or Democrat that does it.


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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If I believe in a policy, it doesn't matter whether its a Republican or Democrat that does it.
    That did not answer my question Pete... Read it a bit more carefully.

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