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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    When I think of partisan hack I think of Krauthammer.
    When I think of Krauthammer I think of an incredibly intelligent and educated human being.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Impeachment requires an actual crime or an act directly in conflict with the president's duty to work for the good of the nation and the American people. Arguably going beyond his authority in order to actually do some governing when congress won't is hardly either of those. Congress is welcome to attempt to rein in presidential power via legislation or constitutional amendment, but it would have to apply to the office itself, not just this president that they don't like.
    Like "I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN"? Or when you break the law of the land (read that the U.S. Constitution).
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Agreed.

    This type of issue has been discussed several times before; Presidents issue EO's all the time and as long as the context of the EO is within the bounds of standing law (in this case, INA law), there's really nothing anyone in Congress can do about it. Will such an EO on immigration brush up against Art. 2, Section 3, clause 5 of the constitution where questionable use of executive powers is concerned? Maybe, but doubtful.

    Let's not forget that any EO issued is first and foremost directed to a specific department (or departments) within the President's Cabinet. As such, he can direct his Administration to carry out certain provisions of the law (or laws) as necessary for "good order and discipline" as it were, and as deemed fit for the "general welfare" of the republic.

    As long as he adheres to the law as opposed to making law (which will be the argument pundits will try to make), there's really nothing Congress can do short of putting forth a bill that effectively changes the law that either goes counter to the EO issued or absorbs the policy directive issued in the EO.

    You could say an EO issued on immigration policy at this point would be more like a power play as opposed to a power grab.
    Adding a statute of limitations to law is changing that law. To say that X is still a crime but that those committing X before 2007 are no longer subject to being charged with X now is illegal. That creates future immunity rather than merely granting amnesty for past acts.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Talk of impeachment at this point is largely premature. Lets see what he ACTUALLY proposes.

    If it literally grants anyone here illegally the ability to naturalize, then yes it's arguably an impeachable offense and given such a flagrant act at a time where the american voting base just sent forth a stout repudiation of the President and where it would be CLEARLY against the implied will of Congress I'd almost actually be able to get on board with such.

    If it simply allows them the ability to stay in the country legally for a few years then its likely not an impeachable offense and attempting to do such would just be a waste of time and the tax payers money.

    Right now we have no clue what he'll ACTUALLY do, so speculating on it is kind of worthless.
    We also have no clue what the Republican House will do, if ever--especially since Cantor was voted out for at least trying with baby steps.
    We do know that VP Biden asked Speaker Boehner last Friday how long he would need and was cut off angrily by the President.

    We also know the House adjourned July 31st without acting and this was a successful election strategy.
    We saw Obama's message about acting uniformly last summer not work.

    As Iowa Gov. Branstad said before the election, Obama's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
    Obama wasn't going to change people who voted against him anyway with executive action before the election.

    I would surmise that his White House team simply wasn't organized enough to put together something coherent on EA,
    especially with everything else on its plate like Ebola and ISIL for starters.

    By hanging his Latino American base out to dry with no EA, they didn't come out to vote for Democrats and cost Senators like Udall their election .
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Watch his comments to Megyn Kelly:







    Will Congress try to impeach a President for using executive power to make sweeping immigration law changes, and is it warranted?


    With all due respect to this once Pulitzer prize winning journalist, he's lost his mind.

    He give emotional reasons as to why this amnesty is "impeachable" offense, but makes no reference to any form of "high crime" or "misdemeanors" stated in the United States Constitution.

    And, based on recent history, Nixon and Clinton, talk of it on this issue is absurd. The constitution gives the president full power over pardons, unquestioningly so that Ford's pardon of Nixon BEFORE being charged, was not even challenged.


    This feeds right into the mistake Republicans always make, stupid, irrational claims tending toward extremism.

    If they want to attack this, the only way is through the courts, where a pardon for an on-going crime is questionable
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    When I think of Krauthammer I think of an incredibly intelligent and educated human being.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    When I think of Krauthammer I think of an incredibly intelligent and educated human being.
    And one of the best tentacles of the GOP octopus working at FOX with Rove.
    Democrats have no answer to this superior messaging war from FOX right now which helped cost them the election .
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Watch his comments to Megyn Kelly:



    Will Congress try to impeach a President for using executive power to make sweeping immigration law changes, and is it warranted?
    Neocons have been/are/will be impeach obsessed. It never stops with them.

    Krauthammer represents some of the worst of what America is today. He reminds me of a little dog that sits on the porch and yaps day and night and never shuts up. Doesn't do anything, but yap, yap, yap.










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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    When I think of partisan hack I think of Krauthammer.
    true enough.


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