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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Watch his comments to Megyn Kelly:







    Will Congress try to impeach a President for using executive power to make sweeping immigration law changes, and is it warranted?
    If the president carries out this threat, I would wait and see what the people think. Polls have been conflicting at times on this issue. One poll says 63% of Americans are against the president acting along on amnesty. Yet on the same day another poll showed 51% of Americans in favor of amnesty. Which is it?

    As for impeachment, for impeachment to work the public has to be for it. Without the public approval it is bound to fail. Failure will give the Republicans another black eye like they got in their attempt to impeach President Clinton. In fact I think Obama would like nothing better than for the House to take up impeachment.

    Let the president go ahead, let the chips fall where they may and see how the American people react. There are other ways to deal with executive over reach. Keep in mind, impeachment is overthrowing an election result. If it is attempted, you better be darn sure the president has done something real horrible to warrant it and the people realize he has done something so horrible they want him out of office.

    Outside of that, take him to court, defund his initiatives, perhaps even a censure.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Republicans have a short memory over executive actions taken by Presidents of their own GOP with respect to immigration .
    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    If the president carries out this threat, I would wait and see what the people think. Polls have been conflicting at times on this issue. One poll says 63% of Americans are against the president acting along on amnesty. Yet on the same day another poll showed 51% of Americans in favor of amnesty. Which is it?

    As for impeachment, for impeachment to work the public has to be for it. Without the public approval it is bound to fail. Failure will give the Republicans another black eye like they got in their attempt to impeach President Clinton. In fact I think Obama would like nothing better than for the House to take up impeachment.

    Let the president go ahead, let the chips fall where they may and see how the American people react. There are other ways to deal with executive over reach. Keep in mind, impeachment is overthrowing an election result. If it is attempted, you better be darn sure the president has done something real horrible to warrant it and the people realize he has done something so horrible they want him out of office.

    Outside of that, take him to court, defund his initiatives, perhaps even a censure.
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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Bull.

    Do a little research. Most of the people who will write G.W.Bush's history, grade his performance and teach lessons about him are liberals who have a very poor opinion of him.

    Bush will ultimately be rated mighty close to the bottom.

    Wait and see.
    Correct, the decision to invade Iraq was a very poor one. Almost 5000 dead troops, tens of thousands with life altering injuries, suicides and the money taken from the treasury. And of course the financial meltdown that occurred under his watch.


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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    There are many other ways to kill off anything Obama wants to put forward, instead of impeaching him. Impeachment is what Obama wants I believe. Best to keep his EO's unfunded, and simply make him wear out his veto pen - or if he doesn't want to veto - let the bills pile up on his desk. His legacy will continue to drop like a stone - Republicans look great because they keep passing bills and Obama either veto's them or won't sign them. Unless Obama actually commits outright treason, impeachment shouldn't be on the table.
    Agreed. Obama is a failed president that has two years left in his inconsequential term. Republicans have won the right to control the agenda and have two years to demonstrate that the voters made the right decision in giving them total control of congress. To bottle up that congress with impeachment would be a tremendous waste. They should pass what they want to pass and let Nobama veto everything. His obstructionism will only damage his legacy and dash any hope for a dem to succeed him

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Correct, the decision to invade Iraq was a very poor one. Almost 5000 dead troops, tens of thousands with life altering injuries, suicides and the money taken from the treasury. And of course the financial meltdown that occurred under his watch.
    You are right, I don't think Bush will be rated very high. But I guarantee he will rate above Obama. I think even Carter will.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    What has this GOP House done with immigration reform since coming to power in 2011? Exactly zero. Boehner hasn't been able to get 218 votes out of his own caucus on anything important since losing the grand bargain in 2011, no matter who you blame. And try answering my post next time instead of your diversions or don't bother .
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    Boehner Will Fight ‘Tooth and Nail’ Against Obama’s Executive Amnesty, Doesn’t Rule Out Shutdown (Updated) (Video).....
    Speaker John A. Boehner said Republicans will fight “tooth and nail” against President Barack Obama’s plans to act on immigration by himself, and didn’t rule out a government shutdown.

    “We’re going to fight the president tooth and nail if he continues down this path,” the Ohio Republican said at a press conference introducing the new GOP leadership team. “This is the wrong way to govern. This is exactly what the American people said on Election Day they didn’t want. And so, all the options are on the table.”

    Boehner is facing pressure from conservatives to pre-emptively defund any amnesty, but that could lead to a shutdown fight......snip~

    Immigration News: Boehner Will Fight 'Tooth and Nail' Against Obama's Executive Amnesty

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    What has this GOP House done with immigration reform since coming to power in 2011? Exactly zero. Boehner hasn't been able to get 218 votes out of his own caucus on anything important since losing the grand bargain in 2011, no matter who you blame. And try answering my post next time instead of your diversions or don't bother .
    The congress failing to act on a particular issue doesn't empower the president to go ahead without them. Congress writes the laws. The president is supposed to faithfully execute them, not take matters into his own hands. That is how kings and tyrants do things.

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The congress failing to act on a particular issue doesn't empower the president to go ahead without them. Congress writes the laws. The president is supposed to faithfully execute them, not take matters into his own hands. That is how kings and tyrants do things.
    Oh comon now. Progressives can't understand that old piece of paper and those written rules in the Constitution. Isn't that only a guideline anyway? If Congress doesn't do what the President likes he can just do it for them - that's the new normal. What's Congress gonna do about it? Impeach him? He'll just put out an EO that says "The President calls it, with no backsies, that Congress cannot impeach him. Neener neener!"

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You are right, I don't think Bush will be rated very high. But I guarantee he will rate above Obama. I think even Carter will.
    It's already happened.

    Clinton, Elder Bush Most Positively Rated Living Presidents

    On both counts. Obama vs Bush 2 and Obama vs Carter.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Krauthammer: 'Impeachable Offense'

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You are aware that he's a quadriplegic? May explain your perception that he doesn't 'do anything'.
    Yes. Not that it matters, but I think he is a para and not a quad.

    Actually, Kauthammer won a Pulitzer some time back. If I gave the impression that I believe Kauthammer doesn't do anything it was not my intent and certainly not because of his disability. I am a firm believer that people with disabilities are more limited by the attitudes of other people than by their disability.










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