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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    No, it won't be distributed in the US. And the refineries are in a tax-exempt zone - foreign trade zone.
    Report: Exporting Energy Security: Keystone XL Exposed - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International


    And even TransCanada admits there will be maybe 50 jobs at the most, permanently -
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    Factually incorrect.


    1. What You Need To Know About The Keystone XL Oil ... - NPR

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      3 hours ago - Because it crosses the U.S. border with Canada, Keystone XL ... Crude from oil sands is some of the most expensive oil to produce in the world.



    2. Energy Reality Check: Keystone Crude Won't Be Exported

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      Jun 19, 2013 - ... and the finished product is sold elsewhere, so there's no benefit to the U.S. ... Using the small amount of refined product exports as an argument to justify ... Keystone gives us improved access to Canadian crude, which, with or ... Renewables need to be a part of that, but so does the Keystone pipeline.




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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The refined product will be made at a US refinery so that added value will accrue to the US, and a significant portion of the refined product will be distributed in the US.
    So, you missed the part where none of it will be distributed in the US but will be exported.
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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    So, you missed the part where none of it will be distributed in the US but will be exported.
    I missed it because it's not true.
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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Exactly. If approved, it is only going to create about 50 jobs, once the pipeline is complete, and all the petroleum from it will be going to China. Yet some people want the government to take land away from people who have owned it for generations in order to get it built. This is just sick. I guess Communism isn't dead, after all.
    It's funny how libs thought a few years ago that stimulus money being spent on a week long road paving project was all we needed to put people back to work, but a 2,000 mile long pipeline project offers no job benefits.

    It's also funny that a few years ago libs were arguing that drilling more in the U.S. would not affect oil prices because petroleum was a worldwide commodity and a little bit of U.S. oil would have no affect, yet they are now claiming that refined tar sands oil exported throughout the world would have no affect on oil prices.

    You guys need to get your stories straight.

    No one is "taking" land away from anyone. They are being paid quite well for the rights to bury a pipeline 6' under the surface. Six months after the pipeline is completed, there will be no trace of it on the surface. They can plant crops over it or almost anything else they want to do. As far as the pipeline goes, it will be made to the highest standards in existence.

    Don't blame communism for eminent domain by private companies, blame the liberals on the Supreme Court.

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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post

    And even TransCanada admits there will be maybe 50 jobs at the most, permanently -
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    Wow, a story from Democratic Underground and Daily Kos.... there's a couple of unimpeachable sources.

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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Wow, a story from Democratic Underground and Daily Kos.... there's a couple of unimpeachable sources.
    glad you agree.

    Or did you have data to counter the stories?

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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    glad you agree.

    Or did you have data to counter the stories?
    Counter what??

    It's nothing but opinion from the dummies at DU.

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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    glad you agree.

    Or did you have data to counter the stories?
    How many jobs will it take to construct the pipeline? Resurfacing a bridge deck or adding an extra lane to a highway creates zero full time jobs, yet that was at the heart of the stimulus package touted by democrats for saving the planet from depression. Now, here we have a shovel ready infrastructure job and liberals oppose it. It gets harder and harder to take you guys seriously on any subject.

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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I missed it because it's not true.
    Prove it.
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    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Counter what??

    It's nothing but opinion from the dummies at DU.
    Are you denying the guy from TransCanada admitted to 50 long-term jobs?

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