Page 12 of 17 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast
Results 111 to 120 of 168

Thread: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

  1. #111
    Sage
    jet57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    not here
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:19 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    24,753

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Pipelines are the safest of all transport means for petroleum products. The Canadian product will be refined at a U.S. refinery and a significant portion will be distributed in the US.

    Tar Sands Action » Key Facts on Keystone XL

    Keystone XL is an export pipeline. According to presentations to investors, Gulf Coast refiners plan to refine the cheap Canadian crude supplied by the pipeline into diesel and other products for export to Europe and Latin America. Proceeds from these exports are earned tax-free. Much of the fuel refined from the pipeline’s heavy crude oil will never reach U.S. drivers’ tanks.
    So this thing benefits the US how?
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

  2. #112
    Slayer of the DP Newsbot
    danarhea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:43 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    39,763

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is the part that concerns me and why I oppose the keystone XL. Eminent domain should never be used for private companies,especially foreign owned companies. What the **** is wrong with conservatives who claim to be patriotic and respect property rights.Do they have their lips so wrapped around big Oil cock that they are too ****en blind to see that this wrong?
    Exactly. If approved, it is only going to create about 50 jobs, once the pipeline is complete, and all the petroleum from it will be going to China. Yet some people want the government to take land away from people who have owned it for generations in order to get it built. This is just sick. I guess Communism isn't dead, after all.
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

  3. #113
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,067

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Exactly. If approved, it is only going to create about 50 jobs, once the pipeline is complete, and all the petroleum from it will be going to China. Yet some people want the government to take land away from people who have owned it for generations in order to get it built. This is just sick. I guess Communism isn't dead, after all.
    It is these property owners those Cliven Bundy supporters should have been supporting.Not some deadbeat who refuses to pay rental fees.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  4. #114
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,520

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Do you ever actually read anything?
    That's what I just said!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  5. #115
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,520

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Exactly. If approved, it is only going to create about 50 jobs, once the pipeline is complete, and all the petroleum from it will be going to China. Yet some people want the government to take land away from people who have owned it for generations in order to get it built. This is just sick. I guess Communism isn't dead, after all.
    A bridge creates fewer jobs than that, once it's completed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  6. #116
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Last Seen
    07-04-15 @ 04:17 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    3,032

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Exactly. If approved, it is only going to create about 50 jobs, once the pipeline is complete, and all the petroleum from it will be going to China. Yet some people want the government to take land away from people who have owned it for generations in order to get it built. This is just sick. I guess Communism isn't dead, after all.
    It's not communism that's doing this. It's capitalism. Otherwise, I agree with your post.

  7. #117
    Sage
    jet57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    not here
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:19 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    24,753

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's what I just said!
    You never said anything and I proved you were wrong.

    jeeez
    “The people do no want virtue; but they are the dupes of pretended patriots” : Elbridge Gerry of Mass; Constitutional Convention 1787

  8. #118
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Last Seen
    07-04-15 @ 04:17 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    3,032

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    From the article Jet57 posted a few posts ago -

    Tar Sands Action » Key Facts on Keystone XL

    Amalgamated Transit Union (ATU) and the Transport Workers Union (TWU) both oppose the pipeline. Their August 2011 statement: “We need jobs, but not ones based on increasing our reliance on Tar Sands oil. There is no shortage of water and sewage pipelines that need to be fixed or replaced, bridges and tunnels that are in need of emergency repair, transportation infrastructure that needs to be renewed and developed. Many jobs could also be created in energy conservation, upgrading the grid, maintaining and expanding public transportation—jobs that can help us reduce air pollution, greenhouse gas emissions, and improve energy efficiency.”
    Well said!

  9. #119
    Traveler

    Jack Hays's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Williamsburg, Virginia
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:19 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    54,920
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Tar Sands Action » Key Facts on Keystone XL



    So this thing benefits the US how?
    The refined product will be made at a US refinery so that added value will accrue to the US, and a significant portion of the refined product will be distributed in the US.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

  10. #120
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jul 2013
    Last Seen
    07-04-15 @ 04:17 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    3,032

    Re: Senate nears 60 on Keystone

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The refined product will be made at a US refinery so that added value will accrue to the US, and a significant portion of the refined product will be distributed in the US.
    No, it won't be distributed in the US. And the refineries are in a tax-exempt zone - foreign trade zone.
    Report: Exporting Energy Security: Keystone XL Exposed - Oil Change InternationalOil Change International


    And even TransCanada admits there will be maybe 50 jobs at the most, permanently -
    FDW's Daily Scoops | Scoop.it

Page 12 of 17 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •