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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    To the contrary, I want straight people to benefit equally for this reason. Such as showering together with girls for instance.
    If the 95% of guys who aren't gay were to shower with girls, you don't think that's a safety issue? Especially if we're talking nfl players, i would expect mass rapes to ensue. It's really not the same.

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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    So 14 pages in and no one thought to fact check a WND article? That is kinda shameful, since the whole shower issue is bogus and entirely untrue.

    Here is the actual policy: "Controversial" MSHSL Draft Transgender Policy Really Shouldn't Be - Page 3 | City Pages

    Notice that it is only about what students can participate in which sports. No mention is made of showers, or locker rooms, or anything else of that nature. So any trans athlete on a team that has students of the other biological gender will probably be treated like this student: Homecoming queen Mary Kate Smith also stars on her high school's football team - News - TODAY.com. Yes, girls have made the football team with shocking frequency, with one or more stories like this every single year. Shockingly, they somehow manage to figure out how to let them shower in privacy.

    Furthermore, as should be ****ing obvious if any one actually thought about it, it is not quite so easy as just declaring yourself trans to be accepted as such:

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    Yeah, that whole idiotic notion of boys just declaring themselves trans so they can ogle girls, well, it is an idiotic notion. I knew better even before I fact checked(which took all of 30 seconds to do). Why is it that the very mention of trans people and every one just throws out any common sense and reacts emotionally? And why do people not bother to check stories from sites that are usually dishonest like WND, or for outrageous stories(which are almost always a case of being overblown)? I am really embarrassed at the gullability of some in this thread.
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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
    Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    The world keeps spinning around and keeps getting crazy. After one of the schools allowed a transgender teen (who hasnít had the surgery yet) to use girlís toilet, now in Minnesota they consider a possibility of allowing transgenders to use the shower together with the sex they identify themselves.
    And while boys might even welcome such changes, Iím not sure that girls or their parents would be extremely glad to see a boy in the girlís locker.
    Seriously, why some doubtful need of one or two people is prevailing over the needs and rights of other people? Give them their own locker, everybody would be happy.
    Boys in the girls locker room, cool.

    But no girls in the boy's locker room because boys rule and girls rule.

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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    If the 95% of guys who aren't gay were to shower with girls, you don't think that's a safety issue? Especially if we're talking nfl players, i would expect mass rapes to ensue. It's really not the same.
    We have discussed this issue in another thread. There should be a glass between genders nevertheless.
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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really? You think high school boys are going to declare to their whole school that they are girls?

    Did..did you go to high school?
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You said "massive upsurge."

    Because, for some reason, you think telling their peers they are transgender is something teenage boys would like to do.

    Wait. You don't think that teenage boys will do idiotic and ridiculous things in order to see naked teenage girls?


    ...were.... were you ever a teenage boy?














    We actually had something sort of similar happen in my high school. a male dancer in our dance program said he was gay, which we all pretty much believed because, hey, male ballet dancer. So he changed with the girls (I wasn't in dance, I was in theater, and we did a lot of stuff together). Then, a couple of years into it, we find out he's "actually" bi - so he was enjoying the naked ladies the whole time. Then he shows up to senior prom with some smoking older redhead none of us had ever seen before ( ) . Still officially bi the last I heard. Some of the girls felt kind of lied to and violated, but nobody wanted to seem insensitive, so no fuss was really made beyond some sort of behind-the-back talk.

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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why is it that the very mention of trans people and every one just throws out any common sense and reacts emotionally? And why do people not bother to check stories from sites that are usually dishonest like WND, or for outrageous stories(which are almost always a case of being overblown)? I am really embarrassed at the gullability of some in this thread.
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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Tameamea View Post
    Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    The world keeps spinning around and keeps getting crazy. After one of the schools allowed a transgender teen (who hasn’t had the surgery yet) to use girl’s toilet, now in Minnesota they consider a possibility of allowing transgenders to use the shower together with the sex they identify themselves.
    And while boys might even welcome such changes, I’m not sure that girls or their parents would be extremely glad to see a boy in the girl’s locker.
    Seriously, why some doubtful need of one or two people is prevailing over the needs and rights of other people? Give them their own locker, everybody would be happy.
    You've demonstrated your headline skimming abilities, now show us you can actually read the article. The proposed policy aims at allowing transgendered teens to play on the opposite gender's sports team.

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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, that'll work out real well.


    I'd predict a sudden massive upsurge in boys claiming to be transgendered...
    You do realize it's not that simple, right?

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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    I don't even like going into the unisex bathrooms.
    Here in my house, that's the only kind of bathrooms we have.
    : (
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Schools propose: Let boys into girls locker rooms

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So 14 pages in and no one thought to fact check a WND article? That is kinda shameful, since the whole shower issue is bogus and entirely untrue.

    Here is the actual policy: "Controversial" MSHSL Draft Transgender Policy Really Shouldn't Be - Page 3 | City Pages

    Notice that it is only about what students can participate in which sports. No mention is made of showers, or locker rooms, or anything else of that nature. So any trans athlete on a team that has students of the other biological gender will probably be treated like this student: Homecoming queen Mary Kate Smith also stars on her high school's football team - News - TODAY.com. Yes, girls have made the football team with shocking frequency, with one or more stories like this every single year. Shockingly, they somehow manage to figure out how to let them shower in privacy.

    Furthermore, as should be ****ing obvious if any one actually thought about it, it is not quite so easy as just declaring yourself trans to be accepted as such:

    trans.jpg

    Yeah, that whole idiotic notion of boys just declaring themselves trans so they can ogle girls, well, it is an idiotic notion. I knew better even before I fact checked(which took all of 30 seconds to do). Why is it that the very mention of trans people and every one just throws out any common sense and reacts emotionally? And why do people not bother to check stories from sites that are usually dishonest like WND, or for outrageous stories(which are almost always a case of being overblown)? I am really embarrassed at the gullability of some in this thread.

    Actually, yes, several of us have pointed out throughout the thread that it's not about locker rooms. However, it's good to bring it up again for those that didn't notice, so thanks.

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