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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It's from a Disney flick Song of the South. The best music ever from any Disney flick and they've long since shelved the movie because it portrayed slavery south with positive characters. It was part of the lessons Briar Rabbit learned. Barbour used the term absolutely appropriately and it wasn't a racist term.

    The movie suffers from Huck Finn syndrome where modern folk just can't handle the real past.

    My Grandma used to read us the real Grimm's Fairy Tales. These days that would be considered child abuse.
    Yeah, like that thread where people were bitching that some group of Muslims was handing out literature that talked about founding fathers owning slaves. People freaked out. YOU CANT TALK ABOUT THEM LIKE THAT YOU AMERICA HATER!!! RARRR!

    It's history, man. Deal with it. There's a lot of stuff in history that's ****ed up by modern standards. We don't condone it, but we can talk about it like adults, right?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Brer Rabbit was one of my favorite books as a child. I still say "oh no, don't throw me into the briar patch" when someone asks me to do something they think I don't like when I actually enjoy it.

    I do know "tar baby" has racist connotations nowadays. But I don't remember when that happened. Languages are alive and words change. That has ALWAYS been the case.

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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yeah, like that thread where people were bitching that some group of Muslims was handing out literature that talked about founding fathers owning slaves. People freaked out. YOU CANT TALK ABOUT THEM LIKE THAT YOU AMERICA HATER!!! RARRR!

    It's history, man. Deal with it. There's a lot of stuff in history that's ****ed up by modern standards. We don't condone it, but we can talk about it like adults, right?
    I agree with that last statement. But it doesn't go far enough. We should evaluate historical speech by the standards of the day, not modern ones. Understand where those people were coming from and what they were really saying to one another. We don't have to adopt past attitudes and solutions, but we should understand them.

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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Stupid politician of the day #2. But at least he doesn't hold office.

    Haley Barbour called President Barack Obama’s policies “tar babies” on a post-election conference call for clients of his lobbying firm, two sources familiar with the call told POLITICO.

    The former Mississippi governor made the remark as he was taking questions from 100 or more clients of the BGR Group during an hourlong call on Thursday morning. According to a person on the call, Barbour was noting how rare it is for Americans to elect a president from the same party as a commander-in-chief leaving office after two terms.

    “And then he said there is no one who will run for president who will endorse Obama’s issues, because Obama’s issues are ‘tar babies.’”


    Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama?s policies ?tar babies? - James Hohmann and Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO

    This part really got me.

    “If someone takes offense, I regret it. But, again, neither the context nor the connotation was intended to offend,” wrote Barbour

    WTF is with these idiots and their half hearted apologies? "If someone takes offense, I regret it"? How about "That was an inappropriate comment and I regret making it.", Haley.

    Politicians run their mouths without thinking.
    Since the term has no offensive meaning or context I fail to see why an apology was in order.
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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    "Tar Babies" couldn't be more appropriate, or funny. It isn't Barbour who needs to apologise, it's Obama.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ogVlL9SXg

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    Obama done stuck his hands in too many things he shouldn't.
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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I agree with that last statement. But it doesn't go far enough. We should evaluate historical speech by the standards of the day, not modern ones. Understand where those people were coming from and what they were really saying to one another. We don't have to adopt past attitudes and solutions, but we should understand them.
    There was a time in history where "the standards" allowed slaves to be placed in a big arena and forced to fight each other to the death. I'm comfortable with saying "Yeah, these people were ****ed up. We should remember these sorts of things so we don't get this ****ed up ever again."
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Very discouraging that so many posting on this thread are unfamiliar with the "Uncle Remus" stories and their place in American folklore and literature.

    From Wiki:

    The Tar-Baby is a fictional character in the second of the Uncle Remus stories published in 1881; it is a doll made of tar and turpentine used to entrap Br'er Rabbit. The more that Br'er Rabbit fights the Tar-Baby, the more entangled he becomes.

    In modern usage, "tar baby" refers to any "sticky situation" that is only aggravated by additional contact.

    Related stories

    Variations on the tar baby legend are found in the folklore of more than one culture. In the Journal of American Folklore, Aurelio M. Espinosa examined 267 versions of the tar baby story.The next year, Archer Taylor added a list of tarbaby stories from more sources around the world, citing scholarly claims of its earliest origins in India and Iran. Espinosa later published documentation on tarbaby stories from a variety of language communities around the world.

    According to James Mooney in "Myths of the Cherokee",the tar baby story may have been influenced in America by the Cherokee "Tar Wolf" story, considered unlikely to have been derived from similar African stories: "Some of these animal stories are common to widely separated [Native American] tribes among whom there can be no suspicion of [African] influences. Thus the famous "tar baby" story has variants, not only among the Cherokee, but also in New Mexico, Washington [State], and southern Alaska—wherever, in fact, the pine supplies enough gum to be molded into a ball for [Native American] uses...."

    Idiomatic references

    The story has given rise to two American English idioms. References to Brer Rabbit's feigned protestations such as "please don't fling me in dat brier-patch" refer to guilefully seeking something by pretending to protest, with a "briar patch" often meaning a more advantageous situation or environment for one of the parties. The term "tar baby" has come to refer to a problem that is exacerbated by attempts to struggle with it, or by extension a situation in which mere contact can lead to becoming inextricably involved.

    Tar-Baby - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Could we become more silly about 'racism'........Joel Chandler Harris wrote some classic stories.........it's just niggardly to think otherwise........

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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Speaking of racist...
    Speaking of racist.... then you must be thinking of the Obama administration. "If I had a son, he'd look like...."
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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by Flamethrower View Post
    Speaking of racist.... then you must be thinking of the Obama administration. "If I had a son, he'd look like...."
    How is that racist? Did you expect Obama to say "If I had a son he would be ginger?".

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