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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If Charlie Rangel had used the word cracker to describe a biscuit often eaten with cheese, it wouldn't be the slightest bit racist, even though it does have racial undertones. Your equating the two doesn't serve you well.

    Context is everything when parsing language.
    Sure, but that's mostly partisan faux-rage directed at a Democrat. Same as this.


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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Sure, but that's mostly partisan faux-rage directed at a Democrat. Same as this.
    Well, go ahead and post the comment made by Rangel and the comment made by Barbour and we can parse the language and the context and we can see which is on its face offensive and which requires a need to be offended to find offense.

    I don't recall Rangel's exact comments - do you?
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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Sure, but that's mostly partisan faux-rage directed at a Democrat. Same as this.
    Here's one of the comments from Rangel, to help you out:

    “It is the same group we faced in the South with those white crackers and the dogs and the police."

    Do you believe that Charlie was discussing biscuits? Fireworks? Party favors? Or do you believe like most people that Charlie was using a racial slur to accentuate the forcefulness of his point?

    And here's the comment from Barbour:

    "there is no one who will run for president who will endorse Obama’s issues, because Obama’s issues are ‘tar babies.’”

    Do you believe Barbour was calling Obama a tar baby? Or do you believe, like most people, that Barbour was describing the political suicide a Democrat candidate would take if he/she was to run for President endorsing 4 more years of Obama's mess?
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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    What if your car horn plays Dixie?
    Not sure... Can you write your local DNC and get a final ruling?
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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    He intended to stir the pot, and succeeded. 2016 is coming. If he makes himself a folksy RW hero....
    Riiiiiiight. Its NOT racist...but, as long as he intentionally presents himself AS racist, he might have a shot in 2016.


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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Riiiiiiight. Its NOT racist...but, as long as he intentionally presents himself AS racist, he might have a shot in 2016.

    Just wait for his announcement. He doesn't have a very good chance of getting the nod, but he'll definitely be able to make some noise if he endears himself to the TP.


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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Here's one of the comments from Rangel, to help you out:

    “It is the same group we faced in the South with those white crackers and the dogs and the police."

    Do you believe that Charlie was discussing biscuits? Fireworks? Party favors? Or do you believe like most people that Charlie was using a racial slur to accentuate the forcefulness of his point?

    And here's the comment from Barbour:

    "there is no one who will run for president who will endorse Obama’s issues, because Obama’s issues are ‘tar babies.’”

    Do you believe Barbour was calling Obama a tar baby? Or do you believe, like most people, that Barbour was describing the political suicide a Democrat candidate would take if he/she was to run for President endorsing 4 more years of Obama's mess?
    That doesn't change the fact that what really rankled the right about Rangel is that he's a Democrat, and what rankled the left about Barbour is that he is a Republican.


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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Just wait for his announcement. He doesn't have a very good chance of getting the nod, but he'll definitely be able to make some noise if he endears himself to the TP.
    And he will endear himself to the right by using rhetoric that you cant even bring yourself to define as racist.


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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    A "Tar Baby" is something that convinces someone to attack it and then once the attacker is committed, entraps the attacker. Only a dimwit would think that it's racist term...
    The term is not. But you both know damned well the inference.
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    Re: Haley Barbour apologizes after calling Obama’s policies ‘tar babies’

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Barbour is from the South and an experienced politician. He fully knows better than to use such a term. It's as moronic and stupid as Rangels BS explanation.

    How do these people get elected is what I want to know...
    Justabubba is right. the analogy makes sense. we have to end this PC BS



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