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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes, by studying the infectious control protocols developed by the CDC itself. I don't know why the CDC makes such protocols if they're going to abandon them in the face of politics but they have become a political org over the years I've subscribed to JAMA. Don't know why we would trust a trial judge to judge medical necessity in the first place. In this case the state medical board should have made the determination. Which btw they did when they quarantined her.
    Given that quarantine is a restriction of one's liberties without due process it is as much a legal question as a medical one. The Federal government and the states certainly have the legal authority to quarantine people but that doesn't mean that power can go unchallenged. It was completely appropriate for Hickox to challenge the order if she felt it wrong. I'd further point out that generally speaking Federal law here trumps state law here so the CDC saying that the quarantine isn't medically necessary is legally significant.

    I don't know anything about the issue from a medical standpoint and I don't know what protocols the CDC uses and under what circumstances they're used. If they say they weren't needed, and I have to assume that the CDC is run by rational people who really don't want to see an ebola outbreak here, then for the time being that's good enough for me. If you can point me to evidence to the opposite I'd be more than happy to read it.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    And the available science says she should have stayed quarantined. Because had she been viral, she would be happily infecting others.
    What available science? As I've stated the CDC says otherwise. So does the NE Journal of Medicine. As far as I can tell the available science says the NY and NJ overreacted.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    ....because had she been a puma, she would be happily eating children...
    Thanks for proving my point. Had people like you been in charge, we quite possibly would have thousands of dead and dying in the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Thanks for proving my point. Had people like you been in charge, we quite possibly would have thousands of dead and dying in the streets.
    No, I would have reacted logically, not "ohmygodwehavetodosomething!!!!"
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    No, I would have reacted logically, not "ohmygodwehavetodosomething!!!!"
    Like I said, people like you get people killed.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Like I said, people like you get people killed.
    People like you become dictators...and get people killed.

    You let hysteria govern your thoughts, not reason.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    She might have. She was willing to roll the dice with other peoples health.
    You do realize that people who don't vaccinate do the exact same thing right? Are you now in favor of government forced vaccinations?
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Gee, I didn't hear him cry like a baby like the nurse did.
    False equivalence. The Doctor had ebola and thus his life was at risk and the health of those around him was at risk; the nurse did not have ebola and thus was not a threat to anyone.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    False equivalence. The Doctor had ebola and thus his life was at risk and the health of those around him was at risk; the nurse did not have ebola and thus was not a threat to anyone.
    And the whole idea of the quarantine was to see if she had it.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You do realize that people who don't vaccinate do the exact same thing right? Are you now in favor of government forced vaccinations?
    Not even the same thing.

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