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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Standard partisan motives? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
    Good thing to remember if you're you. Now, read the damn protocols and stop spreading the inane conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, the quarantine orders did not violate the CDC protocols, they may have exceeded them for someone asymptomatic. The idiot nurse and this doctor both did however. And yes she did all those things prompting the government reaction.
    "Exceeded" vs "violate" is really trivial semantic parsing. As I read the public health statute, the Feds have the final say on the matter so the governors actions were in fact illegal.

    If Hickox traveled by public conveyance or went to work or to a movie theater she should be slapped for that. However I can find no evidence of any of that - other than a bike ride with her boyfriend which appears to be permitted within the guidelines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    "Exceeded" vs "violate" is really trivial semantic parsing. As I read the public health statute, the Feds have the final say on the matter so the governors actions were in fact illegal.

    If Hickox traveled by public conveyance or went to work or to a movie theater she should be slapped for that. However I can find no evidence of any of that - other than a bike ride with her boyfriend which appears to be permitted within the guidelines.
    No, there is quite a gulf between the two meanings. Violate means to act against in this context, exceed is to comply and then go further. The doctor who did violate the protocols for those high risk and symptomatic, which you'll notice includes recommended isolation, not just quarantine. The idiot nurse went out in public repeatedly and said she'd continue to do so. The bike ride with her boyfriend is a violation of the protocols for those high risk asymptomatic. Had she ridden alone and away from the public that would have been within protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And listening to the uninformed (you) telling us to not follow standard infectious disease protocols is sheer idiocy. Please, at least educate yourself before you go off calling these measures panic.
    Blah blah blah....you think you are informed, but you are just feeding baseless hysteria. The system worked, the adults handled it while the blaring fear mongers on TV and radio just scared everyone for ratings.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, there is quite a gulf between the two meanings. Violate means to act against in this context, exceed is to comply and then go further. The doctor who did violate the protocols for those high risk and symptomatic, which you'll notice includes recommended isolation, not just quarantine. The idiot nurse went out in public repeatedly and said she'd continue to do so. The bike ride with her boyfriend is a violation of the protocols for those high risk asymptomatic. Had she ridden alone and away from the public that would have been within protocol.
    The order would still be illegal. Why was the bike ride a violation? Do you know that she came within 3' of anyone or are you speculating?

    I assume here that her boyfriend doesn't count as "the public" since I think they live together.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The order would still be illegal. Why was the bike ride a violation. Do you know that she came within 3' of anyone or are you speculating?
    I assume here that her boyfriend doesn't count as "the public" since I think they live together.
    Not speculating, going on what she has said in the press. And her boyfriend living with her during this time is a definite violation unless he too is quarantined under the guidelines for the entire period required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Blah blah blah....you think you are informed, but you are just feeding baseless hysteria. The system worked, the adults handled it while the blaring fear mongers on TV and radio just scared everyone for ratings.
    Either you didn't read the CDC protocols posted or you did and now want to ignore them because they don't suit whatever script you're reading from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Either you didn't read the CDC protocols posted or you did and now want to ignore them because they don't suit whatever script you're reading from.
    Busted, I am reading from a script, the New World Order Inc. pays me 25 Ameros for every post I make that you don't like.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Either you didn't read the CDC protocols posted or you did and now want to ignore them because they don't suit whatever script you're reading from.
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