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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    She purposely avoided crowded areas and even said and did as much. Again YOUR paranoia does not trump freedom. Glad you and the other freedom haters didn't get their way and I'm also glad YOU are not in a position to do anything about it. Cons that get on their soapbox about freedom and then are the first ones to try and take it away. Pathetic bunch of pussy liars.
    Now that you've jumped the shark and kneejerked your way out on that partisan limb of yours, read what the CDC recommends. It isn't self-monitoring or being out in public.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    She purposely avoided crowded areas and even said and did as much. Again YOUR paranoia does not trump freedom. Glad you and the other freedom haters didn't get their way and I'm also glad YOU are not in a position to do anything about it. Cons that get on their soapbox about freedom and then are the first ones to try and take it away. Pathetic bunch of pussy liars.
    No, she avoided crowds because of the police presence.
    Freedom hater and pussy? Nice name calling son. Grow up.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Neither have any of your jump the shark posts. You answer appears to be, screw em all, I don't know what I'm talking about and nobody I know will ever get sick, so why is everyone worried.
    Don't put words in my mouth. Ebola was never an outbreak in the US. One person brought it in and 2 nurses got it from him. One other doctor had it and infected no one else. No one got if from being on a plane, or at a bowling alley or the subway.

    Making laws out of uninformed panic is no way to run a country.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The problem is the CDC sets the policy according to their needs. In this case they need for healthcare professionals to keep going to ebola zones to help. So they're inbetween a rock and a hard place because those folks just won't go in the numbers needed if they have to face quarantine. But standard CDC infectious control indicates they should be quarantined.

    Then the problem grows because as soon as the CDC releases it's recommendations, the media and politicians step in to misinterpret them to suit their own script. Let's take a look at what the CDC really recommends:

    Interim U.S. Guidance for Monitoring and Movement of Persons with Potential Ebola Virus Exposure | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC. See what category the moron nurse and this doctor were in. Now look at the recommendations for that category of risk, This doctor and the idiot nurse broke every recommendation.
    Unless I'm missing something there is nothing in that link that calls for anything more than "direct active monitoring" for asymptomatic people regardless of risk category. Direct active monitoring means checking in with a public health authority, which could be someone in their hospital for health care workers, at least once a day. There is nothing in there that I could find that called for isolation or quarantine of asymptomatic individuals.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Unless I'm missing something there is nothing in that link that calls for anything more than "direct active monitoring" for asymptomatic people regardless of risk category. Direct active monitoring means checking in with a public health authority, which could be someone in their hospital for health care workers, at least once a day. There is nothing in there that I could find that called for isolation or quarantine of asymptomatic individuals.
    Then you didn't read the linked material, or don't understand it. Look down at the table for the high risk category (which is this doctor and that moron nurse), Look at the restrictions for asymptomatic individuals:

    Direct active monitoring
    •Public health authority will ensure, through orders as necessary, the following minimum restrictions: ◦Controlled movement: exclusion from all long-distance and local public conveyances (aircraft, ship, train, bus and subway)
    Exclusion from public places (e.g., shopping centers, movie theaters), and congregate gatherings
    Exclusion from workplaces for the duration of the public health order, unless approved by the state or local health department (telework is permitted)

    •Non-congregate public activities while maintaining a 3-foot distance from others may be permitted (e.g., jogging in a park)
    •Federal public health travel restrictions (Do Not Board) will be implemented to enforce controlled movement
    •If travel is allowed, individuals are subject to controlled movement ◦Travel by noncommercial conveyances only
    ◦Coordinated with public health authorities at both origin and destination
    ◦Uninterrupted direct active monitoring

    They define active and direct active monitoring in the previous sections. It's not what you describe. BOTH these individuals went out in public and would not desist until they were placed in quarantine. And btw, there is a difference between quarantine and isolation. I suspect you and others here aren't aware of that.

    Remember, only the idiot nurse was asymptomatic. The doctor was symptomatic and the recommended restrictions there are even tighter.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Don't put words in my mouth. Ebola was never an outbreak in the US. One person brought it in and 2 nurses got it from him. One other doctor had it and infected no one else. No one got if from being on a plane, or at a bowling alley or the subway.

    Making laws out of uninformed panic is no way to run a country.
    And listening to the uninformed (you) telling us to not follow standard infectious disease protocols is sheer idiocy. Please, at least educate yourself before you go off calling these measures panic.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Ebola can and does many times kill the otherwise healthy. Have you not been paying attention?
    I think you'll find that people who die of viral illnesses are quite ill at the time.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I think you'll find that people who die of viral illnesses are quite ill at the time.
    Not the point nor is it what is being said.

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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Did she do harm? Did the disease spread? Oh yea it didnt. Oh yea she is fine.
    She never was sick. She was imprisoned by a lunatic Governor and then harassed by another one. She didn't have Ebola, she never had Ebola, and the whole thing was a manufactured crisis by a couple of Governor's trying to show how tough they were. I hope she sues the hell out of both of them.

    Again, fewer Americans have died from Ebola than have been married to Kim Kardashian.
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    Re: New York doctor cleared of Ebola, which means there are no known Ebola cases in t

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And listening to the uninformed (you) telling us to not follow standard infectious disease protocols is sheer idiocy. Please, at least educate yourself before you go off calling these measures panic.
    You only follow infectious disease protocols if, you know, somebody is infected. The nurse wasn't infected and showed no signs of infection at any time.
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