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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    True First Amendment means you will face no discipline for your speech or spoken opinion. So your last line is wrong.
    You give up that right when you enlist or are commissioned.
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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Who knows? But there are plenty of able bodied veterans with similar stances.
    ..and vastly more with opposite stances. What's your point??
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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    You give up that right when you enlist or are commissioned.
    Yea, you do. But we are talking after separation.

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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    ..and vastly more with opposite stances. What's your point??
    The point was this veteran didn't necessarily hold those views because he was injured.

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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    I remember my mom telling me, after I had already been to Iraq both in the initial invasion and then very early in the occupation, that if I went back again and died there, she'd protest it. Otherwise, she could be on board. I couldn't stop laughing: "Mom, either it's a good action or it's not, whether I die or not has nothing to do with it. I know you're gonna be emotional as hell, cause that's who you are, but at least try to be rational before you go off the rails!"
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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I don't know, that's why I posed the question.
    Fair enough. I've seen people come back from Iraq unhurt who support the war and those who don't. It seems to be a mixed bag. Much probably depends on where they did their tour.

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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I remember my mom telling me, after I had already been to Iraq both in the initial invasion and then very early in the occupation, that if I went back again and died there, she'd protest it. Otherwise, she could be on board. I couldn't stop laughing: "Mom, either it's a good action or it's not, whether I die or not has nothing to do with it. I know you're gonna be emotional as hell, cause that's who you are, but at least try to be rational before you go off the rails!"
    Many families "go off the rails" over war dead. It happens.

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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Never said he didn't fulfill his oath or serve with honor or not. Just that every serviceman that enters the military knows that there is a chance they will find them selves in harms way. Maybe never, maybe as soon as they get out of basic.
    As someone who actually went into 'harm's way'- sweet, sanitized for never been's protection, way for referring to a hell on earth- I can say there is a huge difference between knowing the risks and hoping against all hope the fearless leaders who strike photo-op poses on carriers use at least as much thought in why brave young folks are sent into 'harm's way' as into the sell to the citizens who will never go but seem quite certain about it all.

    It seems far too often the leaders fall so short compared to those who never see another sunrise after going into 'harm's way'.

    Gotta love that term... Harm's Way....

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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Many families "go off the rails" over war dead. It happens.
    Yeah, they shouldn't PLAN to, that's the point.
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    Re: Iraq veteran, activist Tomas Young dies at 34

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Wasn't it Ann Coulter who found a way to berate a triple amputee? Some people really are classless.
    She did smear Sen. Max Cleland, who left three limbs behind when he came back from Vietnam.

    Vile Ann Coulter Smears a War Hero | New York Observer

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