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Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them [W:182]

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Wiggen said:
Actually, yes. As much as it sticks in the craw of every right winger, the Russians bore the bulk of the fighting and the killing and the dying in the war with Germany. By the time we were able to intervene in any military way, the Germans had already lost the war in the East. It was just a matter of how long it was going to take the Russians to reach Berlin. The intervention by the US and the Brits in Western Europe shortened the time considerably, but not the outcome.
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Yes and no. The Allied bombing campaign of Europe as well as the threat of an invasion denied the Germans huge amounts of resources that would have otherwise been available against the Soviets. The Soviets certainly bled the most blood, but a lot of that was because the Soviets were idiots and had spent the time ramping up to the war with Germany hanging all their best generals and murdering many millions of their own population.
 
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None of which changes the fact that the Russians did the bulk of the killing of the German army.
 
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Van Basten said:
Loving your high school worldview.

To use their research for the advancement of mankind as the Americans and Soviets did is the right way to go, even though it is surely morally questionable as you said. Life is full of hard choices.
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'Morally questionable'? That's your description of medical experiments conducted on prisoners?

And your condescending bull**** "high school view of history' is noted.
 
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stonewall50 said:
I haven't painted you anything. Your words though? That is another story.

Who is "lauding" them as heros? Hm? How about this. Why don't you deliver me a single quote of me giving credit where it isn't due? Or where I said Nazis were responsible for everything good?

This outrage seems fake. Cui bono? I seem to recall some comments directed at republicans earlier. Is this just as hom?
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Your comments speak for themselves. You are one of a number of posters in this thread gushing over the Nazis we employed after the Second World War. And no, the outrage isn't fake. I've actually visited Dachau. How about you?
 
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jmotivator said:
Yes and no. The Allied bombing campaign of Europe as well as the threat of an invasion denied the Germans huge amounts of resources that would have otherwise been available against the Soviets. The Soviets certainly bled the most blood, but a lot of that was because the Soviets were idiots and had spent the time ramping up to the war with Germany hanging all their best generals and murdering many millions of their own population.
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The Soviets won the prize for most rapes of German women as well...........somewhere around two million I think........often times they would gang rape and also murder the German women and children.....cutting off their breasts and ramming all sorts of objects up their vaginas.......nice allies.
 
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Wiggen said:
None of which changes the fact that the Russians did the bulk of the killing of the German army.
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Good thing the allies did a majority of the bombing and destruction of German infrastructure.
 
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Wiggen said:
Your comments speak for themselves. You are one of a number of posters in this thread gushing over the Nazis we employed after the Second World War. And no, the outrage isn't fake. I've actually visited Dachau. How about you?
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Quote me one time gushing? Please. Please do. Fake outrage.

And no I don't have the money to go abroad. I have things to worry about my own life right now. But when the time comes and I do get my chance to visit Europe, I won't waste it by thinking visiting a holocaust death camp makes me an expert on Nazi scientist and their contributions to the American cold war effort.

Cui bono?
 
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So you are speaking from ignorance, much as I thought. But then again, you are from Florida so it's not surprising.

http://www.okcupid.com/tests/the-germany-or-florida-test

You 'the ends justify the means' people are really something else.

And yes, you and your friends are gushing. Crediting them with satellite telephones, reaching the moon, winning the cold war, you name it. That's gushing.
 
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Wiggen said:
Your comments speak for themselves. You are one of a number of posters in this thread gushing over the Nazis we employed after the Second World War. And no, the outrage isn't fake. I've actually visited Dachau. How about you?
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http://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Men-...iption_secondary_view_pageState_1415657815628

Read this book and then I might start considering respecting your opinion regarding the Holocaust and Germany. Visiting a death camp doesn't teach you much if you don't bother read before hand.
 
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stonewall50 said:
Ordinary Men: Reserve Police Battalion 101 and the Final Solution in Poland: Christopher R. Browning: 9780060995065: Amazon.com: Books

Read this book and then I might start considering respecting your opinion regarding the Holocaust and Germany. Visiting a death camp doesn't teach you much if you don't bother read before hand.
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Oh good, another Nazi atrocity apologist. You base your strident defense of these monsters on one frickin' book?

No thanks.
 
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Wiggen said:
So you are speaking from ignorance, much as I thought. But then again, you are from Florida so it's not surprising. You 'the ends justify the means' people are really something else.

And yes, you and your friends are gushing. Crediting them with satellite telephones, reaching the moon, winning the cold war, you name it. That's gushing.
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Not one single quote or evidence. Your outclassed son. My degree has no value in the job market, but it is still a history degree focuses mainly on the build up to World War I and World War II. Your arrogance comes only because you think you were special for visiting those places. Looking at a monument doesn't qualify you as an expert. Especially if you think it does.

But hey only morons don't supply evidence for their own claims.
 
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Wiggen said:
Oh good, another Nazi atrocity apologist. You base your strident defense of these monsters on one frickin' book?

No thanks.
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Like I said I would not respect your opinion until you read the book. You obviously don't know what it is about, so you clearly don't know much about the Holocaust Who committed it and why. Lmao. It must be nice to be able to create your own version of history and believe it exclusively without ever bothering to educate yourself.

Funny thing is as how the book talks about how people like you were the one who committed the Holocaust.
 
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Well, I know what the Nazi apologists like you say about world war II and the holocaust. Frankly, all of you folks sing from the same hymn book.

My version of history happens to agree with the version of most of the world, neo-nazis excepted, of course. Believe whatever the hell you like.
 
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stonewall50 said:
Not one single quote or evidence. Your outclassed son. My degree has no value in the job market, but it is still a history degree focuses mainly on the build up to World War I and World War II. Your arrogance comes only because you think you were special for visiting those places. Looking at a monument doesn't qualify you as an expert. Especially if you think it does.

But hey only morons don't supply evidence for their own claims.
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Outclassed by you? Laughable.
 
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Wiggen said:
Well, I know what the Nazi apologists like you say about world war II and the holocaust. Frankly, all of you folks sing from the same hymn book.

My version of history happens to agree with the version of most of the world, neo-nazis excepted, of course. Believe whatever the hell you like.
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No quotes. You admit defeat then. Thanks for playin. I guess us uncouthness florida boys are smarter than you gave us credit for.
 
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stonewall50 said:
Not one single quote or evidence. Your outclassed son. My degree has no value in the job market, but it is still a history degree focuses mainly on the build up to World War I and World War II. Your arrogance comes only because you think you were special for visiting those places. Looking at a monument doesn't qualify you as an expert. Especially if you think it does.

But hey only morons don't supply evidence for their own claims.
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stonewall50 said:
Like I said I would not respect your opinion until you read the book. You obviously don't know what it is about, so you clearly don't know much about the Holocaust Who committed it and why. Lmao. It must be nice to be able to create your own version of history and believe it exclusively without ever bothering to educate yourself.

Funny thing is as how the book talks about how people like you were the one who committed the Holocaust.
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Proof that a little learning is a dangerous thing. The littler the more dangerous.
 
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northwinds said:
Hitler was in jail in 1929.......and the German people were starving due to the Jewish banking interests raping the country. By 1936 they were hosting and wining the 1936 Olympics.......Hitler cared about his people.......the rest of the world was duped into fighting them for no reason.
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I rest my case.
 
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Wiggen said:
'Morally questionable'? That's your description of medical experiments conducted on prisoners?

And your condescending bull**** "high school view of history' is noted.
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Yea, I'm the condescending one

So, you think this whole ordeal to be some great crime?
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Russia beat the Germans? Debatable.
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Actually that may be a good point - without the US as part of the Allies, helping to distract Germany on another front, they may have taken more of the USSR. Or all of it, even.
 
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The Mark said:
Actually that may be a good point - without the US as part of the Allies, helping to distract Germany on another front, they may have taken more of the USSR. Or all of it, even.
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The question is multi-layered. The Germans deployed two thirds of their forces against the Red Army, but that Red Army moved with US trucks, jeeps and other equipment. Meanwhile, US forces made the Western front credible.
 
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rocket88 said:
See, I knew you'd eventually give FDR credit for something!

Actually, you could make a case for the fact that the Nazi invasion of the USSR was won by the harsh Russian winter as much as anything. That and Hitler's hubris.
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I occasionally wonder what the Nazi's would have been like without Hitler.

Would they exist at all?

Would they have killed people as they did?

Would they have made stupid decisions like Hitler did?
 
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The Mark said:
I occasionally wonder what the Nazi's would have been like without Hitler.

Would they exist at all?

Would they have killed people as they did?

Would they have made stupid decisions like Hitler did?
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Without Hitler the Nazis would have been nothing but a fringe annoyance.
 
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Putsch said:
It's not a military problem, it's a racial one. The Jew deracinates society. They tear out the roots. A real people derives its genius from the land: the sun, the sea, the soil. This is how they know themselves. But the Jew doesn't have soil. Take the great Jewish minds: Marx, Freud, Einstein. What have they given us: communism, infantile sexuality and the atom bomb. In a mere three centuries since these guys emerged from the ghettos of Europe, they've taken us from a world built on order and reason and hurled us into a chaos of class warfare, irrational urges and relativity, a world where the very existence of matter and meaning is in doubt. Why? Because it is the deepest impulse of the Jewish soul to unravel the very fabric of life until nothing is left but thread, nothing but nothingness. Nothingness without end. It is an eternal enemy of civilisation and Hitler new this and sought with all his might to defend his people from it.
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And the idiotic post of the thread goes to....
 
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