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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In T...

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Admiration? No. You clearly don't understand espionage though. You steal as much information from your enemy as you can. You don't get it do you? In 1944-45 we weren't fighting the Nazis anymore. We were fighting the Russians. And taking nazi scientists meant taking their information base.
    I was never opposed to taking them to keep them out of Russian hands. What bothers me is how they became laudable heroes of the cold war. Wehrner Von Braun became an American Icon = a man who was responsible for the horrible deaths of thousands of slave laborers and who never, to my knowledge, even apologized for his Nazi past. Again, you guys want to give credit to these monsters for everything good that has happened since the end of World War II. Do you also include the former concentration camp guards in this admiration, or is it only related to rocket scientists?

    http://dora.uah.edu/engineers.html

    And please don't attempt to portray me as ignorant of the Second World war. I'm willing to discuss that with you any time you choose.
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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In The U

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Had the Germans not been engaged in the East, there never would have been a Normandy.
    You may be correct, but then Berlin may have received our atomic attention before Japan,
    we did have a Europe first policy.

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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In T...

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Admiration? No. You clearly don't understand espionage though. You steal as much information from your enemy as you can. You don't get it do you? In 1944-45 we weren't fighting the Nazis anymore. We were fighting the Russians. And taking nazi scientists meant taking their information base.
    What does this have to do with the moon?

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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In T...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What does this have to do with the moon?
    Why did we make the sprint to get to the moon? Remember Sputnik?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Why did we make the sprint to get to the moon? Remember Sputnik?
    Yea, and live right here on the Space Coast. But I don't see what the Holocaust has to do with it?
    Very good possibility that German rocket scientists had no idea of the Holocaust.

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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In The U

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    You may be correct, but then Berlin may have received our atomic attention before Japan,
    we did have a Europe first policy.
    Possibly, although I think the decision to nuke Berlin would have been far more difficult for us than the decision to nuke Hiroshima.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yea, and live right here on the Space Coast. But I don't see what the Holocaust has to do with it?
    Very good possibility that German rocket scientists had no idea of the Holocaust.
    They had full knowledge of the fact that slave labor was being used and that they were suffering under appalling conditions while manufacturing their V-1 and V-2 rockets. And while they may not have had full knowledge of the holocaust, like other Germans they were fully aware that something terrible was happening to the Jews.

    No, there is no possibility that German rocket scientists weren't aware of what was going on in their own facilities.
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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In The U

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    No, it's actually indisputable that the Nazi experiments were inhumane. We know this because we are human. Any benefit that could be derived from such horror is a plus - it gives the victims an elegant satisfaction of sorts.
    You big bleeding heart liberal....


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In T...

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yea, and live right here on the Space Coast. But I don't see what the Holocaust has to do with it?
    Very good possibility that German rocket scientists had no idea of the Holocaust.
    The post you responded to asking the question wasn't talking about the holocaust but rather taking on the Nazi scientists before the Russians got to them.

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    Re: Nazis Helped Get Us To The Moon. The Reagan White House Helped Keep Them In T...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    They had full knowledge of the fact that slave labor was being used and that they were suffering under appalling conditions while manufacturing their V-1 and V-2 rockets. And while they may not have had full knowledge of the holocaust, like other Germans they were fully aware that something terrible was happening to the Jews.

    No, there is no possibility that German rocket scientists weren't aware of what was going on in their own facilities.
    Not saying you are wrong, but I don't buy it.

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