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    Re: Supreme Court Agrees To Hear New Challenge To Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    and yet, overall spending on health care has leveled off since the ACA was passed. How do you account for that?

    ObamaCare hasn't been in effect since it was passed.

    The spending is easily explained by the increase in HSEs and deductables.

    When people pay higher deductibles, when they have to pay for health care they put off going to the Doctor.

    ObamaCare is a Law that's forced businesses to cut their workforce and or cut their employees hours down to 30 hours a week.

    That incentivized them to invest in machines that take the place of the worker.

    It creates a poverty trap for people who are absolutely dependant on health care.

    It removes even more discretionary income from Middle class Americans.

    It is in everyway detrimental to economy. It was avoided like the plague during the midterms for a good reason.

    No one but the White House openly supports that idiotic law and all the White House does is just lie repeatedly about how greatit isn

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    Re: Supreme Court Agrees To Hear New Challenge To Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I think you may not understand. If the feds can not offer subsidies, it will not cause low and middle income folk to pay more...it will end the exchanges. ACA may only exist in the states that have their exchanges set up.

    In the long run, this would put such a strain on ACA that it could cause the state exchanges to close and effectively end ACA.
    And that would be a major improvement. Killing this law completely is the only option.

    Its a disastrous and destructive piece of legislation that was sold on a mountain of lies.

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    Re: Supreme Court Agrees To Hear New Challenge To Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    And that would be a major improvement. Killing this law completely is the only option.

    Its a disastrous and destructive piece of legislation that was sold on a mountain of lies.
    ""Killing the law is option, but not a probable outcome from the GOP Congress. It is highly unlikely the Court will simply find the exact wording of section 1321 invalidates the law.

    I predict that the Court returns the case to the 4th court of appeals for consideration in the expectation that the 4th court sends the law back to Congress for a fix.

    The Court can not force Congress to fix the law. The Court can not force the President to sign a bill into a law.


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    Re: Supreme Court Agrees To Hear New Challenge To Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    ""Killing the law is option, but not a probable outcome from the GOP Congress. It is highly unlikely the Court will simply find the exact wording of section 1321 invalidates the law.

    I predict that the Court returns the case to the 4th court of appeals for consideration in the expectation that the 4th court sends the law back to Congress for a fix.

    The Court can not force Congress to fix the law. The Court can not force the President to sign a bill into a law.
    1. I agree that the GOP won't try to repeal Obamacare...at least not yet.

    2. I think this prediction won't happen. If this were likely, the Supremes wouldn't have agreed to take the case in the first place.

    3. Correct, the Court cannot force Congress to fix the law or force the President to sign a bill into law. They can only rule that an existing law or part of it...as in this case...is unconstitutional.
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    Re: Supreme Court Agrees To Hear New Challenge To Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I don't understand that. It certainly does not stand as implemented if the Supreme Court holds the federal government had no authority to set up these exchanges.
    Federal exchanges aren't at issue. What's at issue is whether the IRS can offer subsidies to states where Federal exchanges are set up.
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    Re: Supreme Court Agrees To Hear New Challenge To Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Federal exchanges aren't at issue. What's at issue is whether the IRS can offer subsidies to states where Federal exchanges are set up.
    Yes, that's more exact.

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