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NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Scott

Re: Patthetic NAACP fails to mention historic wins by Tim Scott and Mia Love.

They oppose the section of the Voting Rights Act which allows the DOJ to review proposed changes to the voting laws in states that have used the laws to restrict the voting rights of blacks in the past. There was a recent SCOTUS case that addressed this.
Hmm...

Well that could potentially be a reasonable point, assuming they can show/prove that they have no intention of abusing that change. Frankly at this point I doubt those states would try anything, after this length of time.

But then I've always lived in PA, so I am somewhat insulated from the general opinions in other areas of the country.
 
Re: Patthetic NAACP fails to mention historic wins by Tim Scott and Mia Love.

Hmm...

Well that could potentially be a reasonable point, assuming they can show/prove that they have no intention of abusing that change. Frankly at this point I doubt those states would try anything, after this length of time.

But then I've always lived in PA, so I am somewhat insulated from the general opinions in other areas of the country.

In the 2012 election, there were several hundred proposed changes that were deemed unfair so it seems apparent that states are still willing to try anything. After all, when have politicians ever refrained from trying to get away with something or failed to push the envelope concerning the law?
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

Not really. point being if you are of one race and you start talking about how another should behave, you might be a wee bit racist. I made no judgment of anyones race.

Not really bigotted how? You judged the validity of a person's opinion based on their race. Is that not bigotted? (You will, of course, note the use of the word "bigotted" and not "racist"). I'm still a little confused as to the reason a person's race should be used to immediately disqualify their opinion. If you value diversity - the real kind of diversity, not the skin-deep kind - shouldn't such brash, superficial judgements be avoided?
 
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Not really bigotted how? You judged the validity of a person's opinion based on their race. Is that not bigotted? (You will, of course, note the use of the word "bigotted" and not "racist"). I'm still a little confused as to the reason a person's race should be used to immediately disqualify their opinion. If you value diversity - the real kind of diversity, not the skin-deep kind - shouldn't such brash, superficial judgements be avoided?



What in the world are you on about. :lol: Are you actually lecturing me that if a white dude starts teling black dudes he's not acting black enough for him, the bad part of all that is me pointing out the rather prejudicial and as you say bigoted statements by the white dude? (you can interchange any race you want here).
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

What in the world are you on about. :lol: Are you actually lecturing me that if a white dude starts teling black dudes he's not acting black enough for him, the bad part of all that is me pointing out the rather prejudicial and as you say bigoted statements by the white dude? (you can interchange any race you want here).

In short: yes. Let me interchange the races for argument's sake. You say that a white dude telling a black dude that he is not acting black enough for him makes the white dude a prejudiced bigot. Is a black dude telling a black dude that he is not acting black enough for him any less prejudiced or bigotted? You've previously answered that question with a "yes." On the face of things, there is nothing that indicates a difference in the level of prejudice or bigotry between the people making that statement based on skin color of the person making the statement. You are assuming racial stereotypes to criticize others for their use of racial stereotypes.

What makes your statement interesting is that the actual race of the person whose opinion you are judging is not even established. You are assuming their race from their opinion (which implies a belief that black people don't have diversity of opinion, or at least equally valid diversity of opinion). That is what I mean when I say you are assuming racial stereotypes.
 
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Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

In short: yes. Let me interchange the races for argument's sake. You say that a white dude telling a black dude that he is not acting black enough for him makes the white dude a prejudiced bigot. Is a black dude telling a black dude that he is not acting black enough for him any less prejudiced or bigotted? You've previously answered that question with a "yes."


I see what you are doing, trying to reframe what I say to make it look cool that white people saying a black person is not "Acting black" isn't a racist statement....., I disagree.


I think it's unfortunate when black folk call other black folk uncle toms or accusing them of being "too white"... but that's another thing altogether.



\ On the face of things, there is nothing that indicates a difference in the level of prejudice or bigotry between the people making that statement based on skin color of the person making the statement. You are assuming racial stereotypes to criticize others for their use of racial stereotypes.
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what is this jibber jabber, by this logic, any comment on a racist statement, would be racist in and of itself. The logic, where did it go my friend? lol



What makes your statement interesting is that the actual race of the person whose opinion you are judging is not even established. You are assuming their race from their opinion (which implies a belief that black people don't have diversity of opinion, or at least equally valid diversity of opinion). That is what I mean when I say you are assuming racial stereotypes.


wait, by your "logic" that would make you stating racist things, because you are assumming that I am assuming, that the race of a person making the comment is relevant to the notion suggesting one not acting like how that particular race should "act" is racist.


lmao
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

I see what you are doing, trying to reframe what I say to make it look cool that white people saying a black person is not "Acting black" isn't a racist statement....., I disagree.


I think it's unfortunate when black folk call other black folk uncle toms or accusing them of being "too white"... but that's another thing altogether.




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what is this jibber jabber, by this logic, any comment on a racist statement, would be racist in and of itself. The logic, where did it go my friend? lol






wait, by your "logic" that would make you stating racist things, because you are assumming that I am assuming, that the race of a person making the comment is relevant to the notion suggesting one not acting like how that particular race should "act" is racist.


lmao

With this post you demonstrate either a complete lack of comprehension of the words put in front of your face and their meaning, an extreme bias which distorts all information you are cognizant of, or a purposeful misrepresentation of the words of others. In all cases, it would be folly for me to engage you in further dialogue. I can only hope that the others reading these words are more capable. With that said, I bid you adieu.
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

With this post you demonstrate either a complete lack of comprehension of the words put in front of your face and their meaning, an extreme bias which distorts all information you are cognizant of, or a purposeful misrepresentation of the words of others. In all cases, it would be folly for me to engage you in further dialogue. I can only hope that the others reading these words are more capable. With that said, I bid you adieu.



I just did what you did, only better. ;)
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

I just did what you did, only better. ;)

The thought that you actually believe what you type saddens me more than you know. Don't worry for my sake though, I will endure it.
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

The thought that you actually believe what you type saddens me more than you know. Don't worry for my sake though, I will endure it.



Your well being are things, I find myself not caring about. Your point on the other hand was asinine. If I posted "obama doesn't act black" you and numerous others would rightfully call that a racist statement. obfuscating this point, does not mean you win an argument my friend.
 
Re: NAACP Releases Statement On 2014 Elections, But No Mention Of Mia Love Or Tim Sco

Your well being are things, I find myself not caring about. Your point on the other hand was asinine. If I posted "obama doesn't act black" you and numerous others would rightfully call that a racist statement. obfuscating this point, does not mean you win an argument my friend.

1. You have yet to demonstrate the necessary understanding of my arguments to validate your criticism.
2. I would hesitate to call that a racist statement without additional contextual evidence of racism. That statement can easily be made without racism being involved. It could be your way of saying he doesn't conform to the stereotype. Implying racial stereotypes differ from one another doesn't automatically carry the connotation that one is better than another. People are complex like that. Instead of assuming racism and denouncing the speaker, why can't we expand on their statement to drive home the fact that race is a nearly meaningless distinction? People of all races have a broad range of beliefs, behaviors, cultures, etc. and individuals of different races will always have more commonalities than differences.
3. I think the only person obfuscated is you, my friend.
4. When someone answers your question ("what are you on about? Are you really lecturing me...?"), it is rude to complain about it.

Good day, sir.
 
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