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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    There are idiots that would chant like that. But it is the ones that often are at fault for wars beginning are those that think that wanting peace and security can make it so.
    If there wasn't people chanting war the chances we would have spent almost all our time as a country in some sort of armed conflict is damn near non-existent.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If there wasn't people chanting war the chances we would have spent almost all our time as a country in some sort of armed conflict is damn near non-existent.
    The fact that there are criminals does not mean crime will leave you alone, if you are peaceful.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I am not sure that the Republicans have put boots on the ground more often than Democrats. I think you might want to revise that allegation. You see, invasions can make sense and be the right decision. It is very similar to the SWAT teams.

    Historically international security has had to be organized like Wild West Peace Making. It has been and is to this day a deadly environment without any real rules. This was for many reasons the only way it could be done. Societies that prayed for peace instead of maintaining large armies were swept away. As bad as it was, there were no WMD as potent as today's that make it probable that society as we know it will halt, when one of the imbroglios gets out of hand. It is no longer the viable long term. We must restructure the way we make order.
    As a matter of fact, it was a Republican President under whose watch a very important modern initiative was started to reform the way global security should be defined and structured, by prodding the UN to modify its norms in a way that could put security and other global public goods in the public domain in which they belong.
    Perhaps you should revise giving me a strawman. I didn't frame it in a partisanship way, just what current realities dictate. Hell, McCain was talking about boots in North Korea! Obama uses drones, planes and federal SWAT teams (SEALS, Delta etc). But many that now control both houses of Congress want Marine infantry in just about every conflict going on today including Iraq, Syria and they would undoubtedly push for destroying Iran's nuclear facilities alongside Israel, who happens to be the right's favorite ally.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Ron Paul was irrelevant when he was in congress and he's even less relevant now. It's sad to see dotty old men, former politicians, who can't let it go - Jimmy Carter, are you listening? It's one reason I love GWB even more. The man served his country to the best of his abilities - did some good things and some not so good things - and then rode off into the sunset to let the next wave of leaders take the country into the future. If only more politicians could do the same.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Ron Paul is right. The Democratic Party isn't perfect by any means, but I was strongly hoping that Republicans would not gain the senate and retain the house. For the exact reasons Ron Paul is tweeting about and more.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    He still doesn't really know what a neoconservative is, so he's right with the rest of the Twitterverse in its ignorance.
    'neo·con·ser·va·tive noun \ˌnē-ō-kən-ˈsər-və-tiv\

    Definition of NEOCONSERVATIVE

    1: a former liberal espousing political conservatism
    2: a conservative who advocates the assertive promotion of democracy and United States national interest in international affairs including through military means'

    Neoconservative - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

    No, by definition, he knows EXACTLY what a Neocon is.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Ron Paul is right. The Democratic Party isn't perfect by any means, but I was strongly hoping that Republicans would not gain the senate and retain the house. For the exact reasons Ron Paul is tweeting about and more.
    I actually wanted either party to control both houses as a split just means nothing ever gets done.

    But, I agree with you that Ron Paul is right about the 'boots-on-the-ground' part.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Perhaps you should revise giving me a strawman. I didn't frame it in a partisanship way, just what current realities dictate. Hell, McCain was talking about boots in North Korea! Obama uses drones, planes and federal SWAT teams (SEALS, Delta etc). But many that now control both houses of Congress want Marine infantry in just about every conflict going on today including Iraq, Syria and they would undoubtedly push for destroying Iran's nuclear facilities alongside Israel, who happens to be the right's favorite ally.
    Let us hope, that we never regret not having destroyed Iran's nuclear threat.

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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Ron Paul is right. The Democratic Party isn't perfect by any means, but I was strongly hoping that Republicans would not gain the senate and retain the house. For the exact reasons Ron Paul is tweeting about and more.
    Well you know who the commander and chief is right? So please explain how the senate and house are going to go to war, without the president?

    This is soooo typical. Anytime a Republican gets elected for president or controls one or both houses we get the "oh no it's war" crowed.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Ron Paul: 'Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars'

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Let us hope, that we never regret not having destroyed Iran's nuclear threat.
    I agree.

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